rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2014-08-27 09:56 pm

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Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't seem to have a problem with it, but it proves that they weren't trying to make sense with their choices. Well, at least not all the time. I'd be fine with it if it were random/"less obvious" or actually fitting/conflicting/either for everyone, but it isn't and that's the one problem I have with how monsters are being handled. Everyone should be treated equally and not differently when the mods feel like it without letting the player know.

Could have avoided that problem easily by just making it totally random for everyone, but no, they had to come up with some superficial way to determine monsters that isn't the same for each player, which makes the whole thing pointless and totally random again, just random in disguise.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
let me get this straight, the person has no problem with it, they don't seem to disagree with the mods, but because you disagree, the mods selection was random and unfitting?

what

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently has no problem with it, I haven't spoken to them about it.

And yes, if someone chooses "conflicts" and gets a monster that obviously has traits the player listed, that's plain idiotic.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
And what if there are no monsters that conflict with 100% of their listed traits? Do they not get a monster? Or are the traits listed in the bestiary supposed to take priority over the who knows how many other ones?

+1

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
also, what kind of traits did they list? monster trait a, monster trait b, likes to cook, is very kind, and quick learner are five traits, too, but three of those are going to make picking a monster hard.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Or are the traits listed in the bestiary supposed to take priority over the who knows how many other ones?

Actually, yes, I think so. They are public after all. You may disagree of course.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I do disagree. They're mental change suggestions, not secret ways to game the system and guarantee you get or don't get X monster.

Although, now that you can pretty much give your character any mental change you want, I might suggest that the mods take the ones in the bestiary down so people don't think those are the only ones they're allowed to have.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It proves that the optional mental changes in the bestiary are not the only traits they're going off of and might not even be the most important ones. That's all.

Sorry you're butthurt about your monster (and you say you're totally fine with it but you're clearly butthurt that you didn't get one of the few you decided were perfect for your character in advance), but the mods were always upfront about the fact that not every choice will be obvious. Not every character even HAS an obvious choice - there are 19 monsters, iirc, and over a hundred characters, every single character isn't going to be a perfect fit for one of the 19. Most people use all 5 opt outs, so in that case there were only 14 possible monsters they had a chance to fit perfectly with.

I'll be the first one to say the mods have made some poor decisions in regards to apps, but in this case you're just making up your own trait list based on wild guesses and crying "random in disguise" when the mod decision doesn't sync up with it. There might not have been a monster that fit or conflicted your character well, or you might have opted out of it. You SAY there were ones that fit, but you're going on personal speculation or one or two traits at most.

Can't crack their system after a single app round and figure out every trait out of the potentially hundreds submitted that go with every monster? THEY MUST BE BULLSHITTING THEIR ENTIRE METHOD!! I've seen people say the mods made a poor choice because they didn't pick a monster with abilities that resemble their canon character's powers, and I've seen some people with just plain shitty trait lists, so while the mods aren't prefect I'm not exactly trusting the playerbase to objectively determine whether their monster fit or not.

+1

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
omfg

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I've been excitedly plotting with people ever since the reveal and have drawn various versions of the transformed character, as well as reading up on both the myth and the animal. I'm more than okay with the monster I got.

Just not the way the mods handle the monster-picking thing. That's not the same thing as hating on the monster you got at all.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you read the rest of the comment at all or...?

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I did and had nothing to add to it.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So you had no rebuttal to the most important points, then? As in, the fact that not every character will have an obvious match and what players think are obvious matches might actually not be?

You're getting really upset over what you perceive as mod dishonesty when it would have been so much easier to say "yeah it's random except for your opt outs" in the first place. Why on earth would the mods decide to pretend it's not random when it secretly is when doing so would create way more player anger and drama than just saying it's random? It just seems stupid that you think they'd make this elaborate scheme to cover up their random selection when they'd derive no benefit from it. If they wanted to make it random they would have just said it's random.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are not the most important points to me because we're going to keep disagreeing on most if not all of them (which makes a discussion pointless) -- and the only part I will have any chance convincing you of is that I don't mind my monster and am actually looking forward to the first changes.

+1

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)