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My stance is pro being nice and respectful to others in fandom, and anti doxxing, harassment, boundary-crossing, and not taking no for an answer.

Do whatever whatever you want with the fictional characters.

that's nice

you can just say you're for that instead of attaching yourself to a label that has a shit ton of baggage that isn't worth it

but that's your decision, you do you etc

🤷 we're talking about people who have "proshippers DNI" notes in their profile. I've had friends doxxed and seen others in my fandom harassed out by people who very definitely identified as antis. I'm ok with recommending that "proshippers DNI" (and no other notes) people be kept at arms length.

and i've had the same done by people who claim to be proshippers. racist harassment and gore spam sent to my dms. people purposely linking me to shota when i'm a survivor

see the problem? the labels are meaningless. assholes in fandom are gonna be assholes. you don't need to identity as either to be for common sense and being a decent human being

it's a giant waste of time

I mean I also think that what happened to you was unacceptable and wrong. I'm against harassment across the board. Sometimes these conversations make me pretty uncomfortable here because other anons seem to brush the harassment that comes alongside all this stuff aside.

yeah, it is uncomfortable. and it's unfortunate that i'm pretty sure the reason why i had such a bad time was because fandom is overwhelmingly white

just don't think it's useful to say 'watch out for x' where x is a label for one side only when both sides engage in the exact same noxious behavior. both sides have unhinged people

it's simply safer not to engage with any of it, no matter the team. you don't need a label to state you're a decent human being who believes in boundaries and autonomy for yourself and others

I said I'd avoid those people bc in this context I do think it matters that only one side of the whole argument rates the DNI, when behavior on both sides is terrible. If someone had a message that said they didn't want pro or anti shippers to interact, I would regard that much more neutrally. That is just not something I've seen in my circles and it's apparently not what who I presume is OP is seeing if their mention of seeing lots of "proshippers DNI" is anything to go by.

I actually do very little engagement with any of it on my part. Like I said, if I identify in any way with the "proshipper" label, it is with the definition I posted in my original response to this thread: you can create whatever you want, it doesn't reflect on you morally in and of itself.

I'm really sorry you experienced harassment in the past. You deserved a better time. I don't doubt that you're right and racism also contributed to your experience.

+100

Yeah my experiences are not universal, but getting harassment by people who identify as antis vs those who identify as proshippers has been very a ten-to-one thing.

(also to refer to higher up, while I've seen effectively something that amounts to "antis DNI" that specific kind of language wasn't really used in my circles. "Fandom cops fuck off" and "Antis not welcome here" was more common, "DNI" in general had become something of a yellow flag for 'oh this person is going to be a Problem')

Thank you. I think people are taking me as more strongly proship-identified than I am, when I actually try to avoid the discourse most of the time. If I "identify" as proship it is in the sense of the definition I provided at the start of the thread - it is fine to make whatever fictional content you want and says nothing about you as a person.

It's extremely understandable why someone who'd received harassment from the proship side would be extremely wary and burnt. How they were treated by the "proship" side was unacceptable. Just... yeah my fandom experience has been a lot more similar to yours.

fandom cops fuck off is particularly egregious because your online turf war cannot be compared to police brutality, which is a tool of white supremacy

but like you said dnis in general are yellow/red flags these days

i'm not gonna list all my identities, conditions and trauma so you can tactically hurt me in the best way possible. i'm just going to block you

general you, btw. not saying you, anon i replied to, do this

oh brother

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