i want to do a psl with my character ordering a psl

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[(Anonymous)]

i'm dumb and missed the new post link, so here i go again:

have you ever experienced IC/OOC bleed despite your best attempts to be conscious of it and prevent it? how did you overcome it? tell me your stories, nonnies.

[(Anonymous)]

what kind of bleed? using characters as speakers for personal opinions kind of thing?

[(Anonymous)]

any kind! opinions, feeling antagonized by cr, emotional bleed in a ship, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel emotional bleed really strongly. If my character is going through something really emotional I'll feel it too. Sometimes I lean into it because it's helpful for deciding how they would react, but other times it hurts my playing because I mix up how I would react to the situation with how the character would. So I need to step back and do something else for a bit to clear my head and approach the thread later.

[(Anonymous)]

It's an issue for me when I can tell the other player is doing it. Like my character having a rough negative CR-building thread with another character, me being fine with it, and then seeing the other player be really defensive or weird about it on plurk or in chat, or whatever. As soon as I get a whiff that the other person is projecting or taking the interaction personally, it's really hard for me not to, because I start questioning everything their character does and feeling defensive of my character's side of things even when I'm knowingly playing out my character being stupid or wrong. I've unfortunately run into this kind of thing a lot. The only way I have success dealing with it is to distance myself from the player and refuse to respond to the conversation whatsoever, because I always just end up feeling like an overinvested tool if I let myself get drawn into the whole "let me explain to all my followers unprompted why your character is completely in the wrong and mine is without reproach in this interaction you were previously enjoying." The people who do that make a pattern of it, and I know if I keep up the cr with them it's never going to get better, so I just don't for my own sanity and IC/OOC divide.

[(Anonymous)]

literally all of this

it's so awkward interacting with someone who's doing it that i can't help but start to feel it as well since it's so hostile and weird. generally i try to just drop CR with them so long as they aren't part of a plot i need to interact with them in.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

It's a shame because it's made me really shy of negative cr which I otherwise enjoy. And I also hate being that person who doesn't want negative cr, because then I look like a tittybaby. But I just keep getting burned by people I think are going to be cool about it getting really strange on me, doing things like barging into my unrelated rp plurks to snipe at my character in exactly the same way their character does (and not in that fun "ic plurking" way), etc.

Like can't we just play out our characters not liking one another without you having to explain to me and the entire game why yours has the moral high ground over mine? And they never accept it when I come in with "I know, you're right, my character is being a dumbass, that's all ic for them," they have to keep going on about it everywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, and i think pretty much every one has to some degree at some point. it isn't necessarily a bad thing. we're essentially writing stories that evoke emotion, so feeling those emotions is a thing that happens. the important part is differentiating the normal - being cheered up and getting warm fuzzies from a fluffy thread with your ship, getting sniffly over that sad thread you're writing, getting a mild zip of adrenaline over that action or suspense thread, even feeling a moment of huffy "hey!" over an IC conflict - from something that's a problem - feeling jealous because your ship partner is shipping their character with someone else in a psl, having your entire day ruined because you're miserable over a sad thread, getting spun up into a panic every time your character might face a negative outcome, getting genuinely pissed off over negative CR.

If you find yourself falling into the latter category, the way to prevent it is to step back. sometimes it's as simple as taking a break from the thread causing the bleed for a day or two because you're in a bad mood IRL and are oversensitive as a result. sometimes it means dropping a thread or plot or putting it on hold for an extended period because it's bumping against a sore spot. and if it's a consistent problem - if you always get a wasp up your ass over IC conflict, or if you can't ship without feeling possessive of the other person's character, or if you're a miserable wreck for days any time you do a sad thread - you need to stop playing those kinds of threads, period. (i'd also suggest - and i mean this genuinely - seeing a therapist if at all possible if you fall into the latter category, because reacting that harshly on a consistent basis to relatively mild stimuli is often a sign of something that really needs unpacking.)

[(Anonymous)]

Made a sadboy tm when I was going through a pretty rough patch myself. Big mistake. Huge.

[(Anonymous)]

yes

i was a teenager rping a teenager (a volatile and reckless type) and this adult character went on this huge lecturing tirade toward my character after he accidentally broke something. it was IC for my character to get annoyed but i also took it way too personally. i hated being talked down to irl so this other character being really condescending toward my character grinded my gears hard and definitely influenced how i wrote my responding tag.

i became much more conscious of that sort of ic/ooc bleed as i grew older and got more experience with roleplaying. nothing like that ever happened again.

[(Anonymous)]

I always headcanon that my characters hate ketchup, usually without meaning to. Sometimes I decide they also hate mustard (my personal fave) to try to balance things out.

cw: mentions of csa and trauma, this is so not anonymous at all...

[(Anonymous)]

grossly personal, but I was a victim of abuse and never had access to therapy (due to my culture/society, I still don't, so I had to figure things out on my own), I didn't even understand or recognize it as such, but my friends (who were all teenagers/older than me at the time) picked it up in how I played my naturally very meek and submissive (like, in general, always following orders, lets everyone else have the reins) character and treated her as such and I was just ??? ? ???? I didn't........ intend that, actually, but I had trouble asserting myself, so I just went along with it.

this was in the Yahoo! groups mailing list days, so that's showing my age...

(At least, now, if I play a character with a history of abuse, hc or canon or otherwise, it's intentional and more careful [except when it wasn't, there was still some stuff I had to understand and root out in recent years like "this sort of thing is uncomfortable for me, but other people like it!!!" except actually, decent folks don't..... so now everyone's uncomfortable. Oops............].)

Now, it's more like, I just get second-hand goofy infatuation if my character likes someone, which is funny, but that's it, it doesn't affect playing. I did have a bad partner years back who got jealous and hurt because I liked a different ship in canon with the character I shipped with hers (she said it hurt her because she /is/ her character... it was kinda soulbond-y), but thankfully, never did anything like that myself.

[(Anonymous)]

me, i ship pushed a little back in the day but i wised up once i learned pushing that on the first person (even if they're into it) does not mean they'll give you the best version of that ship. ships are way better if there's natural chemistry between the characters and the players and if things happen organically. plus pushing for a ship you have in mind closes doors on potential ships (especially cross-canon) you may have never thought of that are even better.

currently in this game i'm watching two people who are bleeding ic/ooc pretty badly. one is obviously using these characters as mouth pieces or tags with whatever is going to give the more exciting reaction with little though if that's something the character would actually say or do. the other person can't stand anyone hating their character or them, and their character is always right and knows what's best for everyone and only wants what's best for everyone, even if it's contradictory and doesn't make sense. if that gets called out they reply back with big paragraphs-long tags of meta text justifying everything and you get the sense they're fuming behind the keyboard as if they had been personally hurt.

i don't tag either of the people. playing with people who have ic/ooc bleed means no consistency, which means you're going to be forced to react in an ooc way too eventually.