socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2019-06-20 06:15 pm

hatesex, that's the spirit

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Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-27 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
so the translation also added stuff to the subtitles making all terrorist attacks the work of leftists, huh?

https://twitter.com/nezumi_ningen/status/1144008691143905288

(Anonymous) 2019-06-27 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, though it does seem a little more complex than the "translator is a literal nazi pedophile" discourse has been implying

da

(Anonymous) 2019-06-28 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, this one's more a case of the translator missing that the word has very different connotations in most of the western world than it does in japan. most of the problems with the new translation boil down to that, from what i've seen so far.

it's a pretty unfortunate translation choice in this case, though.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
The worst terrorist attack in japans history was by a hippy cult. It happened 4 months before Eva aired. The original line is referencing this.

It wasnt 'added,' it was an implication the line always carried in japanese. Id have used 'cultist' and not 'leftist'but its not an unreasonable choice

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree the line implies that. "Cultist" isn't the same as "lefitist" and Aum Shinrikyo was built around religious ideas and doomsday prophecies and not a political ideals. The use of "leftist" obscures the reference because its not a term most would associate with a cult like Aum Shinrikyo.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-29 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
find me a single source other than your ass that describes aum shinrikyo as "leftist", i'll wait

i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the guy who writes doujins for a group called the 8th Panzer Division meant it as a "fuck you leftists" thing

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering anno is also a military fetishist i guess youre agreeing that the original line implied leftists as well, then?

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
anno was a military otaku but that's not a political stance since, you know, tankies exist.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
sa, and to clarify, it can be political, but it's not a left vs right ideology, as there are people who are pro military on both sides.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-02 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
so why is it a political stance with the eva translator, who also translated the rebuild movies which contained no such lines about 'leftists' and also kept the kaworu gay stuff pretty intact

which is more likely, that the dude has been working as a translator for decades waiting for a chance to spring his anti-left ideology on the world, or he made a translation choice without realizing how itd be taken in today's political climate

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-02 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not unknown or unusual for people to take hard, sudden swings toward being a chud, dude. he may have had editors stopping that shit with the movies for all we know.

+1

(Anonymous) 2019-07-02 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
And taking hard, sudden swings toward being a chud has gone up considerably in the last few years.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-02 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
? ? ?

whether consciously or subconsciously, the dude used the opportunity to express his dumb opinions where it didn't belong using something that made no sense at all.

like going from 'aum shinrikyo' (even if not used by name) => 'leftists' is a pretty wild leap in logic, so ~he made a translation choice without realizing how itd be taken in today's political climate~ is ridiculous.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-02 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yesterdays Political Climate = nge sub purists would be fine with hiding anything gay and randomly ascribing inworld terrorism to leftists? ?

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-30 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I don't buy this - the word used is literally a loanword of 'Sect', which has no left/right leaning, and given how fucking literal the rest of the translation has been, using leftist instead of 'sect' or 'cult' shows that the translator made a deliberate choice in inserting that term in there.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-06-30 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
yes. yes it is. because a professional translator isn't only supposed to know language, they are also supposed to know both cultures they are working with to choose the correct word according to context. idk enough japanese history to know if what you said is true or not, but even if it is, it still makes it a horrible translation because it is going for literal meaning as if this was google translate instead of translating the concept

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
on what planet is aum shinrikyo leftist

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
libertaria, home of the libertarians.

and their neighboring planet, republica.

Re: EVANGELION

(Anonymous) 2019-07-01 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
oh the twin planets everyone else calls garbage I and garbage II