rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2016-07-14 01:59 pm

Gotta catch 'em all

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(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The series is good! But yeah, Wedge popping up as an Imperial defector? Okay. (I mean I guess technically the Gus Treta thing could still have happened and he could've pulled a Biggs and joined the Empire with the purpose of defecting but who knows. I suspect he won't end up with enough screentime for it to make a difference. And yes, that is Darth Maul you see at various points in that trailer because he magically survived TPM after all. That was a big storyline in Clone Wars. :/)

ALSO: oh yeah. In the old EU, he was in his mid 20s around the time of Aftermath, right? Temmin is like. Fifteen. Which seems to suggest unless Norra had him really early that she's got a few years on Wedge. Then again in Rebels it's taking place at least ten years (well, the first season was about fifteen years before ANH, dunno how far along they are by the third season but Ezra looks grown up enough I'd accept it being several years along) and we see Wedge as an academy cadet (so mid-late teens) defecting. Which then puts him and Norra at about the same age and not so close to Temmin.

Ugh, I've thought about this too much.

Mostly I wish they'd never started a romance with Wedge and Norra. I'm also not fond of how he's getting portrayed like....at all. It feels like some other character with Wedge's name pasted on.

That said: I could read whole novels of Sinjir being surly.

Ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Iirc (mobile isn't making wookieepedia easy to navigate to the legends stuff) Wedge was like 20-22 around the Battle of Endor, and Aftermath/Life Debt is happening within a year of that so unless they've really tweaked things in this new continuity it's at least a decade's age gap. Which? Idk, I might be garage but I honestly don't mind that aspect nearly as much as straight up rehashing the 'falls in love with the lady with the brainwashed husband who comes back just as he makes a move' romance from the novels. The way it's done is just kind of weird all around, I suppose, but I'be also had moments of intense ????? wrt his characterization there. Imo Wendig's original characters are fantastic and I love everything about them, but his characterization of canon characters falls really flat overall :|

Re: Ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
See anon below who corrected me on when Rebels is. Its fifteen years after ROTS, not fifteen years before ANH. Oops. I should have known that too since Leia showed up and was definitely a teenager.

Also: did Wedge and Tycho have a whole conversation in Rogue Squadron about how they were old fogeys at almost/around 28? I ~think~ RS was within a couple of years of Endor so the timeline is still jacked somewhere but the long and the short of it is no matter which way you slice it, he's still not old enough to be Temmin's father. I mean, there's nothing saying that there can't be an age gap between him and Norra but it still feels pasted on.

Sad part is, I generally like her otherwise. (of course, I felt the same way about Iella so there you go)

Re: Ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that conversation, or at least the one I'm thinking of, was between Wedge and Ackbar, in the beginning of Wraith Squadron and led into the 'lose and you have to accept a place as a general' bet. I thiiiiiiink; still mobile and can't confirm but the age mentioned was 28. Pretty sure the rogue regrouping for the books (instead of the comics) came six years after Endor, so the math checks out there.

Yes, I'm a little embarrassed to be able to rattle this shit off the top of my head.

BUT NO, I'M WITH YOU like I can see it happening -- not really in a particularly healthy or happily ever after sort of way in any case that I could ramble about for novels, but it's not the most far-fetched impulse relationship I've seen even in star wars so w/e. Hell, Temmin even responds to him like a father figure more than once, though it absolutely wouldn't last if it actually does become a Thing. Mainly, I'm just like dude can we just not go the love triangle route because it's always awful.

DA

(Anonymous) 2016-07-23 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure you're right around Wraith Squadron, but that puts it about three years after Endor. The Wraith books wrap up just before Courtship of Princess Leia, which is four years out. Would have put him at roughly 25 at Endor, 21 at Yavin so it still works with him being in his late teens in Rebels without his age changing.

I've not read Aftermath so I can't comment on the relationship in that. I just have way too much knowledge about the Legends timeline which is even more useless now than it used to be;

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-07-25 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
You know, for as glued as I used to be to the Legends stuff, I had no idea Wraiths happened before Courtship (probably because that was one of the ones I tried to forget about in terms of cringey EU.) And I think I see where I've been just a little off! Despite literally everything being marked as ABY/BBY I've been internalizing Endor the touchstone year in my head ... which is a super embarrassing mistake to finally realize after like six months of being balls-deep back into this fandom, whoops.

You know, as much as a potential Norra/Wedge ship is a probable trainwreck in progress, it will never, ever be half as cringey as Wedge and Qwi Xux. It's been like over a decade and I still can't do anything more than shake my head in mute disbelief over all of that and appreciate that Allston's very first act was to LOL NOPE it right out of the story.

I feel you though, anon, and I'm super glad us Legends geeks are still around. c: The hardest part about setting aside the old continuity to me isn't the story so much as all those little worldbuilding details that got wiped off the board, especially since I'm playing a TFA character that should have a pretty solid head for things that I have no idea whether or not they'll remain canon or not. It's a bit of a conundrum, but I've been going at it the best I can, haha.

tl;dr not really in response to you, but because I've been thinking about it since the last time I posted in this thread: I think, having had my fun in the old EU heyday (I fell out around the time the Vong showed up and only came back with TFA), I'm just a lot more forgiving with the new timeline stuff, because we still have the old stuff. It might not be The Current Canon anymore but it's not like I had to burn my novels and comics in response -- I was writing SW fanfic when I was in high school in the 90's, different exploration has always been my jam.

The new continuity isn't perfect but I like the direction they're going as a whole. The political setting they've given us is a lot bleaker than most of the old EU had felt, but it's fascinating in its own way. It's interesting to see characters reimagined and reworked (though I'll definitely miss some of the old EU characters unlikely to get Thrawned back into current continuity, like Tycho or Winter, though she seems to live on a little in Verlaine which is neat too!), and I don't know ... for the most part, every time I look at something they do to Wedge that I ??? over, I just try to keep in mind that we've gone back to a guy that barely got a name and no more than a handful of dialogue over three movies. New continuity Wedge isn't EU Wedge, but he can't and frankly shouldn't be because we got that story already. He's had a rougher time of things this time around, and comes off as a bit more of a pacifist type (and a lot less of a background Gary Stu tbqh because I love the man but let's be real about this), they've ultimately kept those core personality traits that made him so likable to me so I'm pretty sure I can deal.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Rebels isn't fifteen years before ANH, Ezra is within a day in age of Luke and Leia. He's fifteen in season one so that puts it at four years before ANH.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-22 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! Right! I got my fifteens backward.

Okay, so that definitely makes Wedge really young by the time Aftermath rolls around.