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http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

Demo of the first Flowers game now out on Steam.

https://jlist.com/jast010 ; SA

[(Anonymous)]

Also, pre-orders are up on JLIST.

Re: https://jlist.com/jast010 ; SA

[(Anonymous)]

as much as i love me some acrylic figures and illustration cards, i honestly wouldn't have minded paying extra for an art + staff commentary book tbh.

Re: https://jlist.com/jast010 ; SA

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder why they didn't go with an artbook. I can understand why they might not do the originally one since it probably has a lot of commentary and would be a pain to translate it all.

But they could have put together a mini artbook. I'd sure as hell buy it just for that alone.

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

Is the demo only out on Steam or can you get it from their website?

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

I checked the English Flowers site, which incidentally received a huge makeover (http://flowersgame.com/), and I assume that it's only on Steam since the demo link on the top-right of the site only contains a link to Steam.

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

Well damn. That's disappointing.

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

i can't tell if i'm nitpicking or if something about that font feels off to me

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

Might be? According to Doddler the demo is using the original engine which has issues.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196600814&postcount=6485

[(Anonymous)]

as a word of warning, apparently the translation is really bad. after seeing tulipgoddess and blackdragonhunt's reactions to the demo, i tried digging around to see what was wrong. apparently this is the problem:

Talking to TLer peeps on twitter and IRC and apparently the Flowers translation is really bad. Mistranslations, weird Japan-isms (using the Japanese name of Wuthering Heights as an example), obvious spelling/grammar mistakes, and the engine hasn't been altered so the font is some weird looking full width thing.

well, that's disappointing

Re: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196600814&postcount=6485

[(Anonymous)]

Well fuck.

I trying to be optimistic about JAST releasing it. What the hell, JAST? I mean I know you were desperate for games to release but this is bullshit.

Re: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=196600814&postcount=6485

[(Anonymous)]

and here i was close to pre-ordering my first game from jast. remember guys, jast may or may not be allowed to touch another flowers game again depending on how innocent grey feels about the release:

http://follow.jastusa.com/post/138101631141/sorry-if-this-is-a-strangebad-question-but

though this might refer to just sales and seeing how thirsty the yuri fanbase is right now for games, uh

maybe if we're lucky, either word about the translation being bad might reach innocent grey's ears or jast's ineptitude at marketing might work against them?

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

aaaand someone tweeted about the bad translation to InnoGrey's PR account in Japanese. could there be hope?

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

I want to believe.

https://twitter.com/kurosakaryuuko/status/702739704005808128

[(Anonymous)]

For anyone who wants examples of half of the things wrong with the demo, someone compiled a list on Twitter.

https://storify.com/KurosakaRyuuko/flowers-demo-translation

[(Anonymous)]

The OP now explains what's wrong in more detail.

https://twitter.com/jlist2/with_replies

[(Anonymous)]

Now the CEO of JAST is doing damage control.

You do know that it's a demo, and alpha? We're totally going to fix any problems

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703029802085711873

Um, that is an alpha and all problems will be correct. Sure wish fans could dial down the hate just a god damn bit

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703029802085711873

Well it's an incomplete translation since we're still working on the final version of the game

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703042767287513088

Supposedly, this game is supposed to come out in three weeks (though since is JAST lol). The fact that demos tend to be representative of what the final product will look like and their current status of the full game is "
Editing 60%, Coding" as of February 17th according to this does not fill me with hope:

http://follow.jastusa.com/post/139470948411/game-progress-update-feb-17

sa

[(Anonymous)]

You do know that it's a demo, and alpha? We're totally going to fix any problems

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703029802085711873

Um, that is an alpha and all problems will be correct. Sure wish fans could dial down the hate just a god damn bit

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703029802085711873

Well it's an incomplete translation since we're still working on the final version of the game

https://twitter.com/jlist2/status/703042767287513088

html

sa

[(Anonymous)]

Misfire

Re: https://twitter.com/jlist2/with_replies

[(Anonymous)]

Then why release a demo? You'd think they'd polish the translation before releasing it.

And if the editing's 60% done you'd think the translation would be polished enough for a demo. Especially since they plan go release in March.

They just don't give a shit.

Re: https://twitter.com/jlist2/with_replies

[(Anonymous)]

i can't wait to hear news of jast losing the license

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

What annoys me the most about this is that JAST had the competent translator work on SoniComi, a short game (VNDB says it's about 2-10 hours long) that probably isn't even that text-heavy since it's supposed to be a photography sim. Meanwhile, they put a terrible translator in charge of a story, text-heavy game like Flowers.

How does this even work

Re: http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

[(Anonymous)]

It looked a desperate move when they went after Flowers tbh. It seems like they went after a company they'd know would license something out and managed to get it so they'd have something to announce at AX. So maybe they just didn't put any thought into getting a decent translator for it and worried about getting something licensed so they could have an announcement other than Sonico.

Why they don't get their shit together and finish their other projects is beyond me.

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/703323232112386053

[(Anonymous)]

JAST released an update to supposedly fix all the errors in the demo. The mistranslations are still there and the new update introduced even more problems with the translation:

https://twitter.com/KurosakaRyuuko/status/703337077832884229
https://twitter.com/KurosakaRyuuko/status/703330974210232320

At this point, JAST is better off accepting that there is no saving this translation and cut their losses.

Re: https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/703323232112386053

[(Anonymous)]

At this point I can only hope that maybe they'll find a competent translator for the rest of the series. If they still have the license after this mess.