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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnViqstGsYs&t=11m24s

this girl was a professional groupie. radfems crying RAPE don't seem to fucking notice that she didn't look 13 or even 14 in the pictures of her linked in this thread.

this isn't r kelly.

we know full well that she doesn't look her age, actually. it just doesn't change that he shouldn't have done it.

not agreeing with you is not the same thing as not understanding the situation

I'm not sure how well you understand that, though. Like, how was he supposed to know how old she was? Even if he'd thought to ask, she was well prepared to lie to him.

This is not a black and white issue. People keep telling you that, but you don't seem to understand in spite of the why being explained.

no one's arguing that it shouldn't have happened, anon. what people are trying to hammer home is that he wasn't aware how old she was. 'he shouldn't have had sex with... a girl he thought was legal age'. that's what you're saying and that's what's trying to be impressed here. he didn't do it intentionally. you can't blame a guy for having sex with a willing girl that he thinks is legal and equate it to a guy having sex knowingly with a willing minor. those two things are so very different.

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ok let me break this down for you: he didn't prowl around the groupies asking who was the youngest. he didn't knowingly stalk or seduce her or go looking for someone under the age of 18. if anything? she was something of a predator.

she had been through puberty and got herself dressed up to show that ~of age~ looking body off. she got the fake id and sought him out looking to fuck while both were high. this is NOT rape. was it a good thing? no, i don't think so. he didn't think so either.

she on the other hand.........

so glad rape culture is still very much alive and well.

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As someone who was actually raped: go fuck yourself in the ass with something rough. Maybe it'll unclog whatever piece of lumber you have up your ass.

well yeah it's rape culture since if the genders were reversed you would be crying for her head for raping the poor star.

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maybe if i space it out you'll read what i am saying

let me write this in very big letter so that you can read and finally comprehend

BOTH OF THEM WERE HIGH. AND SHE WENT AFTER HIM WITH A FAKE ID ON HER. SHE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIM.

Not the other way around moron.

yes it's the 13 year old's fault

jesus fucking christ, slam your hand in a door or something so that you stop posting this garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnViqstGsYs&t=11m24s

listen to her account of it. you obviously haven't done that before.

a "minor" who went out of her way to hide she was a minor

you love leaving that out

anon, this case is grey as poupon, but Lori was not a fucking predator either. They were BOTH high on drugs provided by a third party. NEITHER could give legal consent.

You really need to drop that attitude if you expect to be taken seriously.

I admit this whole situation bothers me in part because, in high school, I actually knew a kid (14 at the time) who could pass for 18, had a fake ID and made a habit out of picking up older guys for one-night stands and lying to them about his age.

He was a fucked-up kid, and I think, looking back, that what he really needed was years of therapy, but I would be very, very hesitant to call the guys he picked up (mostly college kids who thought he was a high school graduate) rapists or predators. One of them was in a GSA group I attended a few meetings of, and that dude nearly threw up when he found out his hookup's real age.

Add a major drug problem into that kind of "grossly underage person lies about their age to pursue sex with adults" situation and whether there's legal culpability or not I just can't bring myself to assign Bowie moral culpability.

she was still a predator

neither of them are predators. there are some cases where no one is honestly to blame. they exist. get over this need to have a victim/perpetrator.

people get what you're saying

they just don't think this is a case of Bowie Evil/Maddox Good. it's nuanced, grey, it's not a black and white situation. you're ignoring the facts of the matter, and the account of the victim, to make a political case.

no one's arguing she was a minor, you fucking toolbag. you're the one clinging to the fact like there was informative decisions all around. there were not. what there was was an underage girl with a plan who had fake id and who lied about her age. technically he committed a crime, but he wasn't aware of that fact. she did not tell him she was underage. he did not know she was underage. he was under the impression he was fucking a legal and consenting partner. as far as he was concerned, all parties were consenting adults.

imagine what it would feel like in this day and age to be twenty-five, hanging out at the bar, seeing your friends and a group of people with them, all at a bar, and picking up one of the ones that was eyeing you up.

i think you guys keep forgetting what sex is actually like. no one who picks people up for quickies and one night fucks or anything actually checks to see if someone's got id or if they're sexually clean or whatever else you might do if you'd been dating someone for a while or knew them at all. these were two people passing in the night and one of those people lied about their age. it'd be just like someone faking a test saying they didn't have stds when they did.

she consented in that she went into it with her eyes wide open. neither of them was really capable of consent since they were both drugged up. he was the less consenting one in the party since he didn't consent to have sex with a minor.

what i don't get is why you don't seem to understand that sirens and lights don't go off if a guy unzips and flops his dick out around a minor. the fact that some people seem to think he should have just psychically known she was underage is what really befuddles me. how? 'she looks like a kid' is a cop out excuse since it's been proven she didn't.

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believe it or not, people, minors can do shitty things!

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