rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2015-02-26 02:41 pm

Too slow

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Re: AKATSUKI NO YONA

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
da

so basically it's just like fushigi yuugi in that regard. glad i never picked this up then.

is yona herself even useful or capable in any way?

dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
lol nope. my friends and i jokingly agree that the guy who killed her dad and took the crown is a thousand times more useful than yona ever was.

...to be fair i personally believe that none of those dragons are useful at all because the author and almost every fan i've met continues to have a boner for hak. she makes him overly competent that the rest are useless.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

i've never or watched the series, but i've heard things about it. i can totally understand that she won't be a badass or immediately, since it is about her journey to reclaim the throne, growing up along the way. does she ever become capable in any capcity? as a leader, as a healer or whatever?

because if not, that's disappointing. the premise has so much potential and i could really go for a series where a spoiled princess is thrown into political chaos through coup d'etat, and struggles to regain her kingdom while growing as character. that shit is my jam and i was hoping akatsuki no yona would fill that void. instead, it just seems like another generic fantasy shoujo with reverse harem.

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
the series isn't actually about her reclaiming the throne, but more her struggle to survive, which then becomes a journey to help her kingdom. and she does grow a lot! not only does she become more mature and a better leader, she starts learning archery and later swordsmanship. whether it still falls into 'generic fantasy shoujo' depends on the person, but i think you should give it a try, anon.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
"the series isn't actually about her reclaiming the throne"

okay this is how i know you're trolling.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not up to date with the manga so maybe i've missed something in the more recent chapters, but from what i've read so far yona hasn't expressed any desire to take back the crown from soo-won

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
this. she isn't interested in taking the throne. she wants to fix all the wrongs that happened thanks to her father not doing anything when he was alive.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

haha, my bad. i guess i could have worded that a bit better. i thought that she did want to reclaim the throne. anyway, i guess i will give it a try and see if it's for me. thanks.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
she gets a bow and tries to learn it but it seems like a shoed in training aspect to me, like the author only wants her to have some extra talent to show the readers look! she's learning something!! it comes off as mary sue to me. i hardly believe anyone would follow her if a) she wasn't the main character or b) she didn't have some innate red god dragon soul. if the story wants to play up the "divine right to rule", whatever, but it's not my cup of tea to like literal deux ex characteristics. the points where she's trying to be a leader are sloppy. it's like trying to get the audience believe that a sexist ancient society would follow her empathetic speeches.

there's another problem with the story. no male character can be better than hak and no female character can be better than yona. hak outperforms everyone in strength, snark, and cunning, and yona outpreforms everyone in kindness and resolve. her move from princess to fugitive is rushed. she cannot negatively be portrayed a brat, ever, because the narrative says that whining trait must be shown as endearing and innocent. besides some added angst, she seems exactly the same as she was as a princess.

if you want a much better story in which a royal person learns to cope with the new peasant life in a much more well-told story, watch Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit. downside is that it's not shoujo, but they play out the action, political intrigue, and character development and training so much better.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
Flatviewer here going to preface by saying I do enjoy AnY as a self indulgent series. It's a fun show that you don't have to think about, although I like the villain's team more than our heroine's. But if you're comparing it to Moribito it's going to fall short in almost all categories. Save for romance. Moribito doesn't have a romance, just a hint of unrequited love from a side character. :/ Moribito does everything else beautifully. I've watched it four times!! Definitely a favorite. The characters all get development, there is soooo much worldbuilding, nuances to the plot, deep themes, and the acting is phenomenal. Even the dub! Highly recommend it.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-05 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

thank you for giving me your opinion on the series, anon. i'm going to give it a shot anyway, but i will keep all of this in mind and keep my expectations low.

and thanks for the rec, moribito has now moved up on my backlog of series to watch.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
mary sue

get out

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
but anon

she is one