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>korean pb for a japanese character

please reconsider your life

just shut up

it's no different than suggesting an english actor for an american character

or german for french or canadian for icelandic. it's about looks, not actual ethnicity. might as well bitch that they're picking a het pb for a gay char or a christian pb for a muslim.

it's a pb. it's not a 100% accurate depiction. come bitch to me when they're using japanese words for a mandarin character or getting actual ethnic details wrong.

there's a lot more difference between asian ethnicities than there are caucasian, shut the fuck up. and koreans don't even look the same as japanese, so this is extra stupid.

also, this is an issue irl, too. hollywood treats asians interchangeably, and groups speak out about it. japanese interests groups routinely criticize movies like memoirs of a geisha where almost all the principles are played by chinese people, which is insulting for a japanese story. given the strained relationships between s. korea and japan and the historical strife, it's even more insulting.

but i think the problem goes right back to why the fuck would you need a pb for hinata?

i could say the same thing about caucasians since there are a lot of different cultural differences between germans, french, dutch, swedish, american, canadian, english, irish, scottish... fuck, you could pretty much do the same arguments with english/ireland/scotland alone that you can with japan/china/korea. there's a huge hateboner for england from ireland/scotland and mixing one with the other would be incredibly offensive, just like canadians really hate being mistaken for americans. i understand the dislike and the discrepancy, but when it comes to a fucking pb for an rp character, this really fits under the 'who gives a shit' category more than anything. this isn't about cultural appropriation or misrepresentation of anything. is blandface oc really a face twin of daenerys targaryen or captain america? no. wanking and policing what people do with their icons and pbs is the dumbest fucking thing ever. no, i'm not the anon and i don't even have a clue who hinata is, but does it matter? they want a pb. let them have one.

i've seen plenty of la canons using different la pbs for things that already have pbs, so this is not some holy sacrosanct thing that can't be touched. you dont like it? don't play with them. other than that, your opinion has been acknowledged and can we be done with this now?

hinata is an anime character.

la pbs for anime is usually not done on dwrp.

and i'm not even touching all that other butthurt white people shit.

so cultural appropriation is only bad if it's against non-white people. you realize that the majority of the 'whities' that were oppressive and assholish to minorities were the english and the greek/romans, historically, right? germany stepped up with the nazis last century, but for the most part, the rest of the world's whitey population has just been a handful of dicks to itself and their neighbor whiteys.

you can't sit there and say "KOREANS DON'T LIKE TO BE MIXED WITH JAPANESE/THE WHOLE CAST OF A JAPANESE MOVIE WAS PLAYED BY CHINESE" and then call it butthurt white people shit when a canadian is offended at being thought of as american or an irish person flips out when someone calls them a brit. you're hypocritically painting them with the same brush and then being a dick about it because 'whatever, it doesn't matter'. except it kind of does.

in regards to the pb for anime shit? so what? don't play with them if it offends your anime senses so much. people do what they want. that's the point to roleplaying.

"so cultural appropriation is only bad if it's against non-white people"

yeah basically. happens all the time in media. what kind of perfect world are you living in?

again, shut the fuck up

hollywood does not treat asians as interchangeable, what the fuck are you talking about? the asians choose to play those roles, which kind of trumps your idea that they find it ~offensive~

sometimes a chair is a chair

"the asians"

jesus christ

what should i have said instead of "asians"

"the humans, the people, the actors, who are from earth, specifically a part of earth called asia, who are of asian descent, including types of asian such as chinese, japanese, korean, and so on, who voluntarily take these roles"

a little long if you ask me

sometimes food and bills kind of trump your offense

source: asian actor

as a white person i would like to say i have no idea how so many people cannot tell japanese and korean people apart there's a pretty big difference there

everyone who is up in here like IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IT'S JUST LIKE CANADIAN ACTORS PLAYING AMERICANS no it's really not

like i cannot touch on the racism bc i'm white but it's more like the difference between europeans who live towards the mediterranean sea vs europeans who live in france and germany and shit

like similar in a lot of ways but different enough that if you see a greek person you're not gonna go "OH HEY I BET THEY'RE OF CELTIC HERITAGE"

that said i got nothin op sorry

not always. all i hear about european heritage is 'white is white' and honestly, it can be pretty hard to tell a french person from an english person from a swedish person. i get that. i'm not saying anyone should be able to tell at a glance. but getting upset at non-asian cultures being unable to tell the difference between a japanese and chinese person or thai and korean person is just as dumb. when you're NOT in that ethnicity, black is black and white is white and asian is asian. there are people calling punjabis iraqi terrorists. it is incredibly hard to just look and know the difference. it's just how it is. it's not meant to be a racist thing. it's not like someone's standing there going 'I bet they're Korean. I'm going to call them Filipino just to be a dick'. Asian encompasses all the groups, since 'oriental' is racist. you don't see swedish people flipping their shit when you call them white or haitians coming after you for calling them black. honestly, the asian cultures are the ones with the biggest sticks up their asses over being grouped as a cultural whole.

lmao preach

"this asian person looks asian" OMG SHUT UP HDU OPPRESSION RACISM YOU WHITE SUPREMACIST GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF btw blacks don't matter

they really do tho

in general the asian sjws are hands down the most offensive and incomprehensible even beyond demisexual star-kin fucks

i wonder why this group of cultures that has often warred with each other/done terrible things to each other would be touchy about being lumped into one giant group.

either way, saying they look similar/are all 'asian' is true and all and not really offense, but just calling them 'asian' even when you're aware of their actual race, or trying to play 'guess the asian' is kind of racist and dickish, yeah.

99% of the time when someone refers to someone of asian decent as 'asian', it's because they don't know their actual ethnicity and asian is safer than, as you said, playing 'guess the asian'.

no one is saying asians aren't asian? no one is going to give a fuck if you call them asian but if you go and assume a korean person is japanese it's kind of weird

frankly out of all the major racial groups white people have the least variation wrt facial features so a lot of the time it is harder to tell beyond "oh they're from this general region" and europeans had a lot more mixing going on and that didn't really happen in asia and still isn't happening very much so there is a much greater difference between a korean person and a japanese person than there is between a swedish person and a french person or what have you

i promise you if you went to africa and started mixing up different groups like that someone would have a problem with it (while this doesn't really happen in america because a lot of black people descended from slaves and just don't know)

idk anon you're just kind of missing the point i'm just saying the people who are crying IT'S LIKE A CANADIAN PLAYING AN AMERICAN are fucking stupid

no, but you're saying that treating asians as a collective whole is somehow being culturally insensitive. i have met every kind of asian under the sun and i'm sorry, but i can't tell a korean apart from a japanese person. the facial features you're going off of as a basis are only familiar to those in the know. think of it as accent differences. you could hear a new zealander and an australian talk and nine times out of ten, you'll get the country of origin wrong. or a south african white person speaking sounding a lot like either previously mentioned country and getting called an aussie or a kiwi. it's not intentionally meant to be disrespectful and those of us who are ignorant to it aren't doing it to be assholes. we genuinely can't tell and we apologize when we're told it's wrong.

the point of referring to someone as asian instead of their specific ethnic type is to stop doing exactly that. i'd rather call someone asian and have them huff than call someone korean when they're chinese.

and all this comes back to looks. i cannot tell the difference. the majority of the people i know cannot tell the difference unless they're asian themselves. people not familiar with what facial features belong to which ethnicity aren't being racist or dicks when they call someone asian. they're covering their ass because they DO NOT KNOW. good for you that you can tell the differences. that doesn't mean that all white people do and if we don't, we're purely doing it to be ignorant racists.

and you're right, i'd probably cause a ruckus going to africa and calling one group another, which is why I'D CALL THEM AFRICANS. or haitians if i was in haiti or jamaicans if i was in jamaica. just like we group east indians together, even though there's a plethora of different types, likewise with native american. call a crow a black foot and see what happens. you can't sit there and tell me that everyone should know the direct origin of someone based on subtle facial features of a culture/ethnicity they're not part of. until you can sit there and tell me you can pick out a cree from a sioux or a samburu from a mudari as easily as you can a korean from a chinese person, this is another pedantic argument. asians aren't easier to tell apart than any other ethnic group made up of a wide variety of types just because you say they are.

oh my god no one ever said you can't call asians asians

they are asian

that is not what i said

i'm just saying that no it's not like a canadian playing an american like some people said because koreans and japanese people look very different while people are throwing out all these examples of white people

it may seem the same to a lot of outsiders but it is weird to have a japanese person play a korean person or a chinese person play a japanese person and so on because yes they are asian and look similar but there are very distinct differences and it's not hard to see why it would piss some people off

i personally don't know how people mix them up but my situation growing up was different than what most white kids experienced so maybe that's why i'm more attuned to it

but basically you can call asians asians jfc no one cares it's just kind of messed up to act like they're interchangeable because they're not

the way you were phrasing it was 'well, *I* can tell all different asian ethnicities apart and I'm white, so the rest of you fuckers should be able to as well otherwise you're all racist fucks'. or at least, that was the tone i got from it. i'm the one that left the canadian/american example and it wasn't in relation to a canadian playing an american or vice versa as it was a canadian being called an american, like a korean being called japanese. as far as who plays what on tv, i really don't give a shit. there's plenty of irish playing brits and french playing american and italians playing east indian and chinese playing japanese that i give no fucks. they're playing a role and it's not indicative of who they are as a person. they're not saying they're japanese. they're playing a part. just like a lot of people play religions in movies they're not a part of. it's not a racist thing. it's someone fitting the look of a part.

which is what this entire argument boiled from, which was someone wanting a pb that fit the look for a part. crying 'go find an actual japanese person, you racist fuck' to someone looking for a LOOK is the stupid part here.

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omg, i know that she's korean and there is a reason WHY i came here looking for pb suggestions and not wanting people to get all bent out of shape over a simple request.

while looking around i came across suzy. she's got the look i imagine hinata to have if she was an actual person. i wasn't even thinking about ethnicity, just looks. i couldn't really find a japenese pb that had the look i wanted, so i came here looking for help.

I hope you guys talking about how Koreans look sooooo different from "other Asians" realize that facial cosmetic surgery is a huge, booming, encouraged industry over there.

I thought Naruto took place in a fantasy world, not real-life Japan?

That's like saying that ATLA Characters are Chinese/Japanese/Tibetan/Inuit/etc.

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