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While she is awesome, she has a pretty minor and limited role in the movies, whereas Arwen's introduction is saving Frodo, and Eowyn's entire story is defying gender norms. There's basically more to their roles and thus more to expand upon with more canon to go off of.

lmao someone hasnt read the books

galadriel led the rebellion of noldor and the escape of the elves from valinor with her brothers and was referred to as "the only female to stand tall in those days." she's twelve thousand years old, and while eowyn's awesome, galadriel's been canonically fighting and defying gender norms long before she has.

she's also the most powerful elf in all of middle-earth, being that she's one of the few elves left who was actually born in valinor. they arent kidding when its mentioned that galadriel getting the ring would likely be a worse situation then sauron getting it.

yeah, but we're sort of dancing in the movie scenario, not the books. from what i know, tauriel wasn't really in the hobbit, other than as a side mention, so picking her up from the books as opposed to movies makes no sense.

so book-galadriel might have been mentioned to have been a more badass character, she really wasn't in the movies much to play from and even in the books it's all just 'shit that happened a long time ago' since the books take place during the fellowship's time, not historically.

sorry hang on
let me get this straight

so because her backstory is only extensively detailed in the books, its suddenly not playable and becomes irrelevant.

that smacks of some massively fucking lazy playing. tauriel being movie-exclusive doesnt mean she wouldnt at least know about this shit. the silmarils are still part of history, book canon or film canon, and i really cant believe anyone can excuse not knowing it just because tauriel's a movie-exclusive character. the fucking entire reason behind the racism mentioned in dos is because the silvan elves were exiled from valinor - elves willfully escaping from what is essentially the elven homeland and promiseland would be fucking huge to most of the elves left in middle-earth, since many of them are silvan.

if youre willing to excuse this shit i really hope youre not playing any elves because that is really lazy playing.

no, but we're talking about people who are rping from the movies.

she's not really in the movies, anon. for people playing exclusively from the movies, galadriel has little to no canon to pull off of.

sure, she's got a great backstory in the books, but it's nothing that's really looked at presently. she's a completely different entity NOW than she was ~epic ages ago. you're basically talking about two different characters, which is why there weren't a lot of galadriels around.

tauriel's being picked up because she's basically the only female in the hobbit and sure, she can be a love interest for legolas and kili, but she can also swing her sword, sword, sword, her diamond sword, sword, sword. (not that i think there's going to be many people picking her up for more than love interest possibility)

no, i don't play from the series at all, but i'm making a case as to why there are 'suddenly so many tauriels'

not having a movie about the silmarillion doesnt excuse people from being fucking lazy and not knowing their own character's fucking upbringing and circumstance though.

it doesnt matter if it wasnt in the movie or if it was ~so long ago~ it matters that this was a huge turning point in her life, and why her rejecting the ring in fellowship is such a big deal. "i have passed the test and i will diminish into the west" basically means that she's repented for what her actions caused, which was basically the destruction of her own people in middle-earth, and now she can see her family and home again. it is a big fucking deal.

people not playing this do not understand the character. whether they're playing from the movies or the books, thats fucking lazy. take what is known about the character in canon and work with it, or dont take anything at all.

and yea it shows that you dont really play from this canon because thats not really how it works lmao, especially for elves. there is no wall between movie canon and book canon, since all of it is important-ass history, and most of the deliberation is character-specific, eg. whether the hobbits met tom bombadil or not. playing galadriel like something that was that massive to her character just didnt happen and excusing it with "but im playing from the movies!" is objectively shitty, lazy and inexcusable.

I think the point previous anon is making is that for people whose exposure to the Tolkien style of Middle Earth comes first from the movies, their interest in characters also comes from what they see of those characters in the movies. Because the movies don't cover Galadriel's backstory, the people who want to play an action-related lady are not necessarily going to pick up Galadriel as a first choice.

Even if, as a good RPer, they then go to the books and do their history research and use both as their bases for RP, they're still doing that search for a specific character. They're not necessarily going to change who they're trying to play.

It sucks that galadriel's actions are forgotten, but honestly- she is a different type of character in the age we see her directly represented. And she is going to appeal differently because of it. .

thats all fine but im not sure i jive with the idea that its suddenly irrelevant because it happened in the books or all of these years ago

my first exposure to lotr was the films, i play a hobbit and i still made sure to at least read the books to the canon point i was taking him from before i started. i read everything i could about the history of middle-earth in case something came up, and i still looked up odd ends to incorporate into my playing.

if youre playing an elf, you really dont have any excuse to not know about this shit. like im sorry but not reading up on elvish history is lazy if youre playing an elf, especially given that a lot of them were probably around during this. at the very least, she'd have heard stories about this, ESPECIALLY given that tolkien noted political issues between thranduil's kingdom and lothlorien.

honestly in a canon like this, if youre not researching history and referring to it, you definitely should be. im not sure how this is an argument.

unbunch your undies, anon. i didn't say that playing galadriel was anything. this is about tauriel, if you'd actually read the damn start. explaining WHY there are so many tauriels around all of a sudden.

even WITH the addition of galadriel in the list i made, that's FOUR females out of a cast of how many men? so yes, while an influx of hobbit/lotr characters is bound to happen, people are going notice when there's more of one specific type, ie; the only female character in the movie.

jesus christ. simmer the fuck down.

if youre playing an elf, know your elvish history.

i dont know how this is a dispute. most of them were alive while this was happening. not knowing or incorporating this is lazy, thats literally the start and the end of it.

"females"? are you a ferengi in real life

really? you're going to pick on a phrasing that's actually legitimate when talking about members of multiple species? three elf maids and one human woman. there, is that better for you?

There is no "side mention" of Tauriel in the Hobbit. She is completely made up for the movie, anon.

yeah, i wasn't sure. i'd heard chatter places (because i'm not in the fandom at all and haven't seen the movie) that she was barely mentioned in the books as someone in legolas' past or something and they'd beefed her role up for the movie.

Well you heard wrong. Trust me, she isn't anyone in Legolas' past or anything like that. She is purely fabricated.

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