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okay, i've heard this before but no one's bothered to explain to me WHY this is. i know that there's crossover in the comics (not that i've read any because i'm that kind of fan), but i thought most of the marvel universe stuff took place in vaguely the same universe because of the crossover.

but xmen verse almost seems like its own little world because of the worldwide mutant thing that i never see brought up in any of the other movies/cartoons. why the hell is that?

Separate groups holding the rights to various Marvel properties. Fox has the mutants. Disney's got the Avengers. That's also why, despite the fact that he's been an Avenger and the movie came out around the same time, there wasn't any crossover between the Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man.

Yep! The MCU movies can't even use the word mutant.

And while there's no legal reason this has to be so in the cartoons, they seem to avoid crossing their streams since this complication came into being. If you look at the older Marvel cartoons, up through the early nineties, the various characters appeared on each other's shows all the time, but the more recent ones, you'll only see a nod or a reference to the other heroes a lot of the time. In, say, Wolverine and the X-men, there were only vague references to non-mutant metahumans, and in Avengers Assemble, Wolverine and Spider-man barely turned up, and only for special occasions. They want to promote characters in a way that won't confuse people or lead to missin any potential merchandizing dollars, I guess.

There was some legal reasoning for some of it up until recently, Anon. Sony had the rights to Spider-Man for TV as well. So Spidey couldn't be used in Wolverine and the X-Men or anything like that. It reverted to Marvel around the time the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon ended.

You must never have watched Ultimate Spider-Man or Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Because Spidey and Wolverine are part of the New Avengers in EMH and Avengers and Wolverine show up more than once in USM. They've been crossing the characters over like crazy ever since Marvel got the rights back for the television versions of the characters as the YAA anon mentioned.

+1 what everyone else said and also adding that quicksilver is going to be in both the avengers 2 and dofp, but they had to get separate actors. they're also not allowed to mention magneto in avengers or avengers in dofp, so unfortunately they're going to remain completely separate. i guess they're going to just not explain that he's a mutant in avengers because they're not allowed to do that either.

they're doing an f4 reboot because fox wants to keep its rights so there might be x-men and f4 shenanigans in the future if they want to cash in on that, but everything else would become a clusterfuck. if they do decide that f4 and x-men are the same universe, i have no idea what we should call it.

Fox Cinematic Universe?
Fantastic Men Cinematic Universe?

I don't know.

"a trainwreck"

Clusterfox/Clusterfux?

mcu 2: electric boogaloo

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