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"it's like eva" isn't a critque. we're never getting an eva movies, and it's more than unique enough to not be a rip off.

BUT it's not just the mecha's that are "like Eva." I buy Del Toro wasn't inromed, maybe ever some other people, but some people working on were slipping in nods for sure.

"It's like Eva" isn't necessarily a criticism, but "it's a ripoff of Eva" or "It's Eva for Hollywood" is a criticism and a pretty glib, inaccurate one. Semantics, maybe, but it's still kinda irritating.

I agree with not being a ripoff, but "It's Eva for Hollywood" IS accurate. As I said above, it has American tropes instead of Japanese ones. It's like when anons remind you that Supernatural and MCU is pretty much LA shonen.

Wouldn't "It's Mecha/Toku for Hollywood" be more accurate in that case?

Not really. I mean, is Pacific Rim giant robot anime for Hollywood? Yes, undoubtably. But basically what you're saying is that Eva = all giant robots.

Or to put it another way, Supernatural and MCU isn't LA shonen, it's Bleach for Hollywood because they're shonen series that feature supernatural creatures. Shonen implies that there's a genre beyond just one show.

Game of Thrones is Lord of the Rings for the 21st century. There's political action and swords. Narnia is also Christian Lord of the Rings.

All deathmatch series ranging from Dangan Ronpa to The Hunger Games are Battle Royale.

All science fiction series are either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Percy Jackson is Harry Potter with demigods.

All magical girl series are Card Captor Sakura or Sailor Moon.

Hell, Attack on Titan is Eva too because they both feature giant monsters.

What I'm saying, anon, is that it's a really lazy comparison you're insisting is true since it boils down to robots + synchronizing with robots + giant monsters - characters - plot beyond 'giant monsters need to be smashed' = Eva, for all mecha shows are Eva.

>synchronizing with robots
>plot beyond 'giant monsters need to be smashed'

There aren't many well known mecha series like that actually. And I find the rest of your comparisons funny because there's always ONE series as example of its genre. The "parent" so to speak.

All shonen comes from Dragon Ball, all magical girl comes from Sailor Moon. Yeah, you used it like sarcasm, but that's how it works. They put "the rules" of the genre.

There are three main mecha categories. Mecha vs Mecha at war, daddy there is Gundam. Mecha vs monsters without depth, aka "chokuzoka", that's Mazinger and all its cousins from the 80s. Eva can be good or bad in your opinion, but it marked a before and after in mecha series, and that's the third group and where Pacific Rim belongs to.

'k.

don't necessarily agree with the other anon. Sailor Moon didn't invent magical girls.

However, I think Pacific Rim has more in common that just the things you listed. There are a lot of (mainly) visible nods that are not things necessarily common to other mecha shows. Most of them were sly little visual nods. A lot of the visuals and designs very much hail back to Eva. Which has unique visuals, even among giant robots genres (Although the Jeagers themselves didn't look much like Eva's, imo, however the armorless Eva's face resemble the Kaiju's faces quite a bit)

And although a lot of the themes aren't only in Eva, the fact that so many line up with Eva also makes it seem that way: Giant robots that need synchronization, that are used in a world that has been beset by this problem and redesigned culturally to react to it, including cities designed for attacks and a new world government that both act similar in the programs (Eva's vs Jeagers). An "other" race of monsters that come in waves, with a sorta mindlessly (seeming) drive to kill all humans with no obviously apparent goal why. Reluctant hero, quite bad ass quiet female, know it all foreigner who thinks they're the best. Etc.

None alone are unique in the slightest to either, but seeing so many cross over to both, is it really a surprise people are comparing it more to Eva then any other Mecha anime?

Oh yeah, I agree with you, actually. I just want something a bit more nuanced in comparing and contrasting, like what you just did, rather than just a lazy generalization of, "It's Hollywood Eva. Period."

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