rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2012-08-29 03:24 pm

[M] Just as planned

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You're using one definition of racism, the one in the dictionary, while sociologists/minority studies use the prejudice + power definition because it's a more accurate measure of how racism affects minorities.

I prefer the second definition better, but I still subscribe to the ideal that minorities can be hostile and prejudice against white people. Just not racism, because that's...conflating one problem with another.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe that makes sense in the west, but what if you're in a country that is non-white. Would you still say that it's not possible for those people to be racist against whites?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I come from a country that's not white. People who looked more European than the rest of us, or are direct descendants of Spaniards who weren't mixed at all with the native peoples are, on average, better off than those who are mixed/don't look as white. Also, my country is racist towards blacks.

SA

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I should add that our current president looks super white, owns tons of businesses in the private sector, and studied abroad/lived in Europe for years.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No, because of imperialism. I think Asians have historical reasons to be wary of white people, just a thought.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
my point is it's not okay to attack anyone based on skin color for any reason. it's still racist as shit. saying it's not racist is fucking stupid because that's what racism is.

+1

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. I was a victim of molestation, so as a teen I was sometimes really abusive to the guys I knew because I thought of them all as creepy sex-driven manipulators.

and I was wrong to do so and really sexist. Being a victim of something didn't give me a right to treat others poorly. being a woman doesn't give me the right to be a shitty human being.

if you attack someone for something they are that they can't help? it's shitty. don't do it.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Doctor of sociology here.

No we don't.

peace out

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I sure believe you.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
How hard is it to just call the second one "institutionalized racism" so that there's no confusion as to what's being referred to? That way it makes it clear without diminishing the impact of minority-on-minority racism, which BTW is also a major issue that doesn't get a lot of attention.

DA

(Anonymous) 2012-09-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
My local school once had a display about racism in the USA, and it actually covered everything under the sun really well. It had stuff about the racism toward Irish immigrants (particularly in the early 20th century), racially motivated gang violence between blacks and Asians, all the stuff that happened with Native Americans (and continues to happen today)...it was pretty informative! And I was really impressed that they covered all sides of the issue and made it clear that it's about so much more than just the history of slavery in the US. That's important to talk about, too, but it's only one part of a huge issue.

tl;dr, but what I'm trying to say is, yes, I agree.