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I think the problem is also dwrp's culture of assuming that it has to be a game to be good quality is also an issue. not every idea *has* to be a game. I wish more people would be willing to open things like sandboxes and dressing rooms instead of going straight to the same reserve-tdm-app-event formula of a game

+1 we need to be more accepting of more game types and kinds around here

there are already a ton of under-the-radar private games. they do things weird and differently more often. if they were in public eye, they'd probably be scrutinized, cried for being "low quality" or a "bad idea". but there they are thriving and having a good time.

y'all just need to not be weirded out by the ones that do make it into the public eye. the idea that "low quality" or sandbox or dr-styled private settings aren't viable is completely false and proven by all the private games that are out there doing fine.

I think the idea of being in a game without the "quality filter" of apps or AC scares some people, even though there's a lot of documented evidence of those things not being a mark of "quality" at all lol

I've pretty much never seen a game without AC work for the long term, at least not for many years. That's why I'd never run or play in one.

I'm in a game with check in only and it's fine. I'm not convinced a game (or game equivalent) needs to last for years to be good either.

Check-in is still AC.

yes, but it's the most minimal AC and it's fine. people still play, I think something without AC could still survive. it's cool if you disagree but I don't think AC is any mark of whether a game is good or worthy or not.

Also to be clear I meant "for many years" as in, 8 years ago games without AC may have worked better because of how active people were, not that the game needs to last for years. I'm talking about AC-less RP not even meaningfully lasting a few months.

y'all just need to not be weirded out by the ones that do make it into the public eye

who? who is doing this?

literally anyone who nitpicks a game idea for doing anything outside of "standard norm"??? where have you been for the past 5+ years

People nitpick various things, but whether it's a sandbox, DR, or app game is usually not among them. Like these other anons, I have genuinely not seen this.

there are literally anons in this thread right now saying that it's not possible to have a good game without AC

how is that not someone saying that being "outside the norm" isn't allowed

That anon was me, and my point is that there are tons of valid reasons that mods may not want to run DRs or sandboxes. It was in response to what seemed to be a general demand that people make more things that AREN'T app games, with the assertion that people were just "scared off" by shallow things that didn't actually impact the game experience. My point is that, at least in my experience, it DOES impact the way the game plays out, and so there's more than just nebulous "culture" artifacts making it so people are less inclined to run those.

Does this mean other types of RP are "not allowed"? No. Does this mean that when I see someone trying to start a DR or sandbox I tell them not to? No. Does it mean I'd be like, offended or something, if I saw one of them succeeding? Also no.

All I means is that I wouldn't app and I wouldn't make one myself. I just took issue with one anon's seeming assertion that the only reason they don't crop up much is some kind of cultural peer pressure, as opposed to mods running what they want to run.

I mean you seem to think that your one, singular opinion is worth inserting into a discussion so clearly you're trying to bring in some sort of agenda here, even if it's unconscious

if you truly want to live and let live then you would have stayed out of the conversation. what difference does your personal experience make? none. but now you've turned a productive discussion into you browbeating anons into agreeing with you in multiple threads, just because YOU wouldn't app and YOU wouldn't make one yourself.

Lmfao. An "agenda". Okay.

Why is your opinion innately more valuable than mine? Why if your opinion objective but mine is anecdotal? Why is me sharing my perspective "browbeating"?

your experience =/= the end all be all of what can viable work in a dwrp game

i am literally in a private game right now that has no ac (yes, check in, but i digress), allows duplicates, allows pregnancy, allows so many things that would get it "shunned" here for being atypical of your average dwrp megagame, for what is considered the "gold standard" of a "successful" game, and yet this private game has been going strong for the past 7 months.

what i'm trying to say is, conceptually, everything you think is "unsuccessful" can work

and more games like this could work if more anons like you didn't twist themselves in knots trying to convince everyone else NO IT JUST DOESN'T WORK IN MY EXPERIENCES

THANK you

the reason why these "unconventional" games are mostly private is because anons tear them apart if they try to exist as a public game

ayrt

i'd love to get to a point where everyone here can be chill and not give a fuck so "weird private games" could be un-private and more offer more visibility to people who want those different experiences

but yeah no for now they're going to stay private and hard to access because chucklefucks like that can't control their own fingers to stop themselves from spewing diarrhea across their keyboards that is their unasked for opinion about how none of that will ever work

I promise you, anon, if your game ever dares show it's face I WILL find it and I WILL destroy it. No horrible, abnormal games will be allowed as long as I live.

Is that hyperbolic enough? I feel like you were outperforming me.

pretty sure both of us have established we already don't care about your useless opinion

uh i mean go forth and destroy those icky yucky low tier games, you're the hero!! you're gonna make dwrp great again!

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because app games without AC all die pretty damn quickly

it is not that the game itself is bad. the premise and the mod may be wonderful! but no AC will kill it on the spot. it's what has always happened.

then don't make it an app game

I'm not totally sure whose shoulders this 'culture' is being lumped on. As someone who has modded before, I wouldn't make a DR or a sandbox because that's not what I want to run? It's not because I don't accept the idea of those things existing - they've just never worked out for me and I'm not interested in structuring a game that way. I don't really consider that a problem.

okay?

the point is that mods who might want to run a sandbox or DR should be empowered to do so rather than assuming that everything needs to be a game to survive. I see it happen here all the time, someone has an idea and anons chime in with "make this a game" when some of them would work fine as a more freeform idea, especially the more general "I want a sci fi thing" or "I want an AU to mess around in" ideas.

the point is that mods who might want to run a sandbox or DR should be empowered to do so rather than assuming that everything needs to be a game to survive

okay but where is this happening? where do you see people interested in opening sandboxes or DRs being told not to do so, and to open games instead?

hell i see some pitches on here met with the response of "this works better as a sandbox than a structured game" pretty regularly?

genuinely who are you talking about anymore, because it doesn't feel like the actual dwrp community, but one you've made up in your head based on your own assumptions about people you're not talking to or comments you aren't reading.

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