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Genuine question:

Hypothetically speaking, you get into a disagreement with someone on plurk and you part ways. The person you fight with defriends you and they have a plurk list of like 150+ people. Their plurk is flocked to friends only. They then make a plurk about the disagreement to their 150+ timeline and you can't see it. You are namedropped to this 150+ timeline in a place where you can't see it or speak back to it. A mutual friend screencaps the friends only plurk of you being spoken about to this 150+ timeline and shares it with you and/or an anon comm of some kind.

Whose privacy has been violated in this?
Is that plurk public or private to begin with?
Is bad behavior better or worse than capping the bad behavior?
Is it acceptable to share the content of that plurk as long as it isn't capped? (e.g., paraphrasing or summarising)
Is the plurker absolved from dealing with the consequences of what they have said by virtue of the plurk being friends locked?

Srsly wondering here.

the plurker is free to be an asshole however she wants to

the plurker is free to share her assholishness to her group of friends however she wants to

her friends are free to share her assholishness to their friends however they want to

i don't see the deal

THERE IS NO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET
Do not say anything on the internet you would not say to a persons face.
Even if you have security settings enabled
Even if it's set to "private"

Why people can't get this I'll never understand.

this, a million times this

capping is rude and a violation of trust, but...

anyone that thinks anything they post on the internet -- yes, even under a "lock" -- is truly private, they're kidding themselves. your information/posts/anything you put online CAN EASILY BE RETRIVED AND LOOKED AT BY A DOZEN FUCKING PEOPLE AS YOUR DATA IS SENT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN COMPUTERS EVERY FUCKING WHERE. not to mention all it takes is one of your friends deciding to repost whatever you write for your "privacy" to completely disintegrate. it's not like chatting face to face where all people have is he-said-she-said with nothing concrete to share.

don't ever put anything truly "private" online. don't. something you don't want casually accessible? sure. but nothing is safe online, no matter how illusions of privacy you have.

YES. YES!

People keep putting forth the argument of "Well I shouldn't have to do this! It's bullying!"

It doesn't matter if people shouldn't have to do anything, protect yourself. AND DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE UNLESS YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING IT TO THEIR FACE. Because it will get back to them. Never fails.

I seriously don't understand how people jump from people-laughing-at-asinine-behavior to ZOMG BULLYING!!

No, it's not particularly pleasant to find out that people are laughing at you for acting like a socially inept ass.

But just because they're not filling your heart with warm fuzzies and asspats doesn't mean they're bullying you! Jeeezus christ.

(collective/hypothetical you, not you personally, obviously)

as far as i can tell, it's like this:

thing i don't like/thing that gives me bad feels = bullying

i think people on the internet are confusing "privacy" with actual privacy

you can lock a plurk, but if people see it, ESPECIALLY if it's on a timeline of 100+ people, it's not truly private. when people say nothing is private on the internet, it's true. i like that comparison someone made, about walking in to a party of 100 people and saying something private. you can't expec it to stay private

idk though, idgaf about sharing caps or whatever because my personal philosophy is i don't share a n y t h i n g that i'm not okay owning up to if it comes down to it. same goes for anon

people really need to subscribe to that line of thinking imo

You know, it's cute, man, how you still believe in privacy.

I get how you'd feel bad to know that, but private is private. If I complain about my job to a plurk of 100+ people, my boss doesn't have a right to see it.

As for whether the bad behavior is better or worse than the invasion of privacy, that really depends on what was said. Everyone has a right to vent without having the entire world see, even if 150 seems like a lot of people (and common sense would suggest that if you don't want something to leak, you'd filter it to a trusted subgroup). If they were lying or trying to rally whiteknights to help bully someone, that may be different.

and yet they are firing people for saying shit about their jobs on facebook "privately"

This is why the "real name policies" that have been creeping up on social networking sites are pure bullshit. People deserve to be able to complain about their jobs without risking their employment.

More and more it seems like everybody is getting to control everybody else's lives. It fucking sucks.

No one is saying you can't complain, you just shouldn't be an idiot and do it on the internet. Go bitch to a friend, or to your SO or to your cat or something.

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(Anonymous) - 2012-04-10 22:41 (UTC) - Expand

And if you complained about your job to a group of coworkers and one of them took it to your boss, you could also get fired. The point? Watch who you say things to and when. It's not 'controlling everybody else's lives,' it's common sense. Don't say shit that you don't want people to hear unless you absolutely trust the person not to spill it.

Srsly?

Talk about some stupid false absolutes and bad analogies all up in there.

Complaining to your plurk list about your job is not comparable to complaining to your plurk list about RP or something going on with another RPer.

If you complained to 100+ coworkers about your job in an inter-office email, whether or not you think your boss has a right to see it, your a completely naive idiot not living in the real world if you expect that they won't find out or that it's unfair to you in they do.

Keep on pretending that the world actually conforms to your totally absurd storybook land where "privacy is privacy" and there's never any gray area of what people are supposed to disclose, anon. Even in professions where privacy is a professional standard it's still not an absolute. You might want to wake up and step out of your dream world sometime in this lifetime.

you live in a fantasy if you think the things you say to others is ever really "private"

YES. JFC.

...and now that I've looked back a few pages to see where all this talk came from, I just want to clarify that the people crying about DW not stopping gossip are stupid, and when I say it's wrong to cap things, I just mean it makes you a douche. Possibly more of a douche than the person you're outing.

capping shitty behavior makes you more of a douche than the person with shitty behavior?

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(Anonymous) - 2012-04-10 23:54 (UTC) - Expand

Your boss likely will still find some way to see it. Didn't you know that most employers actively seek out such things and will fire employees for it? And they will also check the internet for anything they can find about you before even hiring you.

If you want to complain about your boss, go to walmart and buy a blank book. Write in that and hope no one else finds it. That is the closest you will ever get to private.

If I complain about my job to a plurk of 100+ people, my boss doesn't have a right to see it.
But if they see it, they can use that as motivation to find a legitimate reason to fire you or make your life harder. And your co-worker on plurk can use it to make themselves look good with your boss. Who will you appeal to to uphold that right? You live in a world where companies track your habits and location in order to (at best) devise strategies on how to make you give money to them, where lists of people's names and phone numbers are a black market commodity, and where underaged people post pictures, full names and addresses online willingly. Privacy is a thing of the past.

If someone stood in a room with 150+ people and badmouthed you to every single one of them behind your back

they'd have to be brain dead not to expect word to get around.

Real life or the internet, it's going to happen. This isn't hard to understand, guys.

Maybe the person who de-friended you (and I mean a you in general) shouldn't be such a bitch because someone disagreed with them on the internet.

It all comes down to the simple rule of not posting ANYTHING on the internet if you're not okay with it potentially ending up in a place like ACJ or any of a number of LOLFACEBOOK sites. If you've got so much venting to do, do it IRL.

Or even in a private 1 on 1 chat. A person isn't going to post something you've told them in confidence because they'll take their reputation down with yours.

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