socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2017-03-29 07:33 am

We mustn't offend the all powerful NPCs!

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
don't post on your phone guys.

I hope that Mcdonalds does not put out the Szechuan Sauce now for Mulan.

Just to spite the creator.

Re: GHOST IN THE SHELL

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
terrible actress is too far, but in the years since people demanded a black widow movie, she's played nothing but variations on that black widow character since then. seriously, every role is the same for her, and now it's at the point where the shine has worn off the apple. even if she hadn't done gits, there would still be backlash.

also, gits sucked, and would have sucked even with a japanese actress, so idk why you think whitewashing is the only problem people have with it.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm obviously pretty biased here but imo the series is very good. The gameplay is a lot of fun, the soundtrack is beautiful, the story is solid, and the characters tend to be well-rounded and likable. The games feel very sincere, in my opinion, like the production team was making them because they really wanted to rather than because Squeenix executives were cracking the whip.

That said, it's definitely got some weirder moments and blatant fanservice. Kaine (futa girl from the first game) is running around in high heels and a negligee and 2A (major character in the second game) is wearing garters and booty shorts. On the other hand, I never found it too jarring because even the most naked of characters have actual depth and a purpose to the story beyond being the character not wearing real clothes. Plus the second game has it's share of female gaze fanservice.

As for Kaine, she is confirmed intersex by word of god (and it's explicitly spelled out in one of the novellas) but you can miss it in the game if you're not paying attention or just read the text differently. The fetish fuel part of her character is definitely of the more traditional 'girl not wearing any clothes' angle. On a tangentially related note, there's also a major character in the first game and a significant supporting character in the second game (as well as assorted backround characters in both games) that are confirmed gay, none of which are presented in a fanservicey way.

So yeah, the games' definitely have their share of flaws, but they're also well worth taking a look at if you like action RPGs and post-apocalyptic adventures.

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That Great Wall movie that everyone disproved as starring Matt Damon?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
did you just call your mom out as a medium wanker

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
da

you probably trolling, but if you fall in with the alt-right, you fall in with literal nazis and fascists, so i don't have any pity you or for what excuses you build around yourself to justify that.

Re: DEAR PLAYER/MUN

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to use Dear Mun to voicetest, but after those mods fucked off I lost interest and just never bothered with Dear Player.

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
even if you removed matt damon, though, the great wall was still subpar. aside from his usual love of awesome color, it's really hard to tell this was a yimou work, because it lacked every bit of the soul his previous films have (probably because he wanted to specifically make it for an american audience, and i guess we're used to movies lacking any kind of soul to them).

he's basically become the chinese ridley scott

Re: GHOST IN THE SHELL

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Because thats the only people really were complaining about it for months upon months?

Re: GHOST IN THE SHELL

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
if you missed the deluge of complaining about scarjo before the gits casting was announced, that's your problem

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
why does everyone forget she literally designed and maintained genji's body.

hospice care, really, anon

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
is the plot for this game almost over? the app queue page says apps will be closed permanently after april.

Re: THE YEAR

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"drop an app" is a funny phrase considering dwrp terminology

Re: GHOST IN THE SHELL

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
if you mean people only complained about the whitewashing, that's probably because it was the only solid thing people really knew about the movie.

now that we know the story and how the film is directed, that professional critics have actually gotten a hold of it, the truth is the whole movie is crap from the top down. it's not the worst movie ever produced, but it's still pretty bad. 42% on rt and 53% on metacritic.

+1

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
i was going to rec oj too! it definitely seems like it might be what you're looking for c:

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8VlF96W0AADC3K.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8VlF96XYAMypi4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8VlF96XYAI9N4J.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8VlF96XgAAvMaG.jpg

brudda dont even start this shit with me today

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you fall in with the current North American left you fall in with Castro, Lenin, Mao, Jong-il, and Stalin.

so you know, glass houses and all that.

Re: THE YEAR

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
i never looked into the box back in the day, so i wouldn't know! i'm just not sure i'd like a game with events that had such a narrow focus, so i was wondering if the tdm was more like an event or more like an arrival or what.

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
definitely trolling.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
idk anon, the game isn't even open yet so it's basically impossible to give you an answer. If you have reservations why not just wait a month and see how its opening goes? There's bound to be an event in its first couple months or so that you can judge for yourself!

Re: WHAT'S BEEN UPSETTING/PISSING YOU OFF LATELY?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
lol i doubt all that sjw complaining was the reason the movie failed. maybe it just... i don't know... sucked?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
that was pretty much my plan. it wasn't meant as nay-saying so much as answering the question posed really.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a gentleanon and a scholar. Is there any particular person I should credit?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
driveby anon here, and yeah, what the above anon said pretty much nails it. amazing story, one of the best soundtracks ever made (i've even seen people who've never played the game say this), really fun characters, and the gameplay is okay at its worst and absolutely incredible at its best. it combines hack and slash style combat with 3d bullet hell elements (among other things) and it's probably one of the most charming, unique games i've ever had the pleasure of playing. i'd even go as far as saying the final boss of the second game is literally my favorite boss in any videogame, ever. ditto for the ending. it's just really good stuff!

seeing some of the characters out of context might make them look bad (visually, i mean) but there's way more than what meets the eye when it comes to yoko taro's games in general. something else to note about kaine— the intersex character— is that she wasn't made that way because some dude has a futa fetish. a woman helped yoko taro write nier, and kaine being intersex was her idea. there are also a lot of lgbt characters who, like the above anon said, are treated with loads of respect. there's none of that "girls can't love girls" stuff, no okama type characters, etc. yoko taro's stance on writing characters who aren't vanilla and straight is that he does it because "people like that exist", rather than it stemming from his sense of humor, a fetish, or anything else, which also helps.

basically, if you're vaguely interested but worried about the games being skeevy because of fanart you've seen or offhand things people have mentioned, they're actually pretty amazing.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-02 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The first Nier is good, but it has its downsides. It has an overall better cast and I was drawn more into its story, but Cavia, the company that produced it, wasn't super great and the gameplay is repetitive and mediocre. The game's look isn't so bad even today if you're into the overexposed aesthetic from Shadow of the Colossus or ICO, but some players find it distracting. Music is stellar all the way through, and the game's intersex woman and various gay characters are treated with subtlety and respect. The only real fetishizing that goes on is what the previous anon said - the game finds several reasons to knock Kaine out and then films some of the least subtle booty shots known to video game history. It does this several times, so I hope you like looking at asscrack. Oh, and you can drift on a giant boar.

Oh, and the game was the last thing Cavia produced, so you can actually feel the budget cuts in some places. A huge amount of the background material, including a lot of characterization for the main characters and the only explicit mentions of Kaine being intersex, can only in supplemental material like director interviews or Grimoire Nier.

The sequel has less compelling characters (especially its antagonists, just imo) and the plot didn't grab me as hard, but there's still plenty there to love. Lots of nods to Drakengard and the first Nier, improved graphics that still stay true to the look of the original, and the gameplay is infinitely better. Platinum gave this title a lot of love and a lot of people mention that the combat feels a lot like Bayonetta 2. It has a much bigger and more varied environment, fairly early access to fast travel, another fantastic soundtrack, better sidequests, and you can drift on boars and moose.

Sorry to gush. Like the other anon, I have a lot of love for these games and I'm glad more people are showing interest. I'd recommend trying a Let's Play for the first one, since there are tons of them out there and the game's not easy to find. The second game is on PS4 and PC and probably other places, so maybe give it a try? You can play Automata without knowing Nier.