rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2016-03-14 03:22 pm

Trapped in the city of one loo

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Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
a 1940s white dude born and raised in un-incorporated East Austin. if he was racist at all, he must have had a miserable childhood.

not every white dude born in the south before the civil rights act was a card-carrying dixiecrat KKK member, anon. hell the whole reason dusty got over with a black crowd is because he was authentic in his appreciation of 70's black culture. he grew up in it. it's awkward that he made a success of himself through what we'd call appropriation today, but the dude himself wasn't racist.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
you really think 1940s-50s austin was the same austin as today?

i don't think you really understand how prevalent racism was back then. it was everywhere, it was literally the default. just because the dude wasn't a screaming kkk racist doesn't mean he didn't inwardly think of them as inferior because pretty much every white person back then did (and a good chunk still feel this way today, even if they'd never ever admit it to anyone except close friends and family who feel the same way

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
no, it was very different because un-incorporated East Austin was mostly 90% black neighborhoods in Dusty's youth. That same area today is being slowly gentrified one hipster-owned business and/or condo at a time. in Dusty's time, it was the only place a dirt poor plumber/ditch digger and his family could afford to live comfortably if they didn't want to. dusty actively protested the treatment of recently integrated black students in his alma mater by the white faculty because many of them were his neighbors growing up. now, you can't throw a stone in East Austin without hitting someone trying to open up a cat cafe where a pinata store was unfairly sold by a landlord trying to make a pinny off of stupid white liberals who "don't see color".

anon, I live in Austin, don't lecture me about what it's like. and if you seriously think every white dude was racist during a certain time period, you may want to log off tumblr and pick up a history book.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
anon, mostly black neighborhoods are neighborhoods where racism is at its thickest. or do you think the white minority just cheerfully accepts their being outnumbered? you have a solid command of facts but where you fall flat on this is your generosity. you assume people, specifically white people, to be better than they are

i have family in Austin myself so don't tell me it's a utopian wonderland. it might be more enlightened than the rest of texas but that says more about how backwards texas is than it says about how progressive austin is

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
you didn't read my comment if you thought I was saying Austin was a utopian wonderland. I was saying literally the opposite, that the gentrification of East Austin is a depressing, angering reality that most of the city is turning a blind eye to because most of the city are "well meaning" rich white liberals who just want their organic vegan gluten-free coffee shops and don't care if they have to destroy a minority owned business or neighborhood to do so. we're basically being Brooklynized.

also, I think we're both making assumptions here, you're just doing it in the opposite direction. for every non-minority person that's come up in minority neighborhoods that I've met who was a piece of shit racist, I've met significantly more who came away from the experience a hell of a lot wiser to minority voices and experiences, even if they don't necessarily share them. at this point we're basically talking entirely about our own anecdotal experiences and I don't think we're gonna get any further.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
everyone was racist back then

blacks wanted legal ways to get away with murdering whites

whites wanted to keep the legal ways of murdering blacks

and the actual POC's that life were being made hell were ignored, it's actually surprsing that civil rights activists remember to include them in the laws that were made