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[(Anonymous)]

it's just a fucking song.

side-eye your way to tumblr or calm the fuck down. either one is acceptable.

[(Anonymous)]

man people like you just hate thinking critically about anything, don't you?

[(Anonymous)]

"don't judge my armchair activism!!!!!11111 weeeeehhhhhhh!!!!1 you can't ask me to actually get up out of my chair and volunteer in my community and make real change happen weeeeehhhhh!1111"

[(Anonymous)]

nice deflection, but doesn't kill the point.

"it's just a fucking ___" is the calling card of people who want to shut down any critical thinking about media. which, fine, if you don't want to think about this kind of thing no one's forcing you too, but saying shit like that on an rp community is kind of ironic.

[(Anonymous)]

so when is queen bey gonna drop the whole white girl look?

because it was plenty gross to see her shaking her fakeass blonde hair every which way while real girls not ashamed to wear their hair natural were relegated to backup dancer positions. they were even darker than her too

[(Anonymous)]

tbh, you're not wrong, even if you're trolling, she could be a better role model if she wore her hair naturally, but it's gonna take more than one pop star to turn back decades of black beauty trends that aim to minimize blackness.

namely, the change has to come from within the beauty industry itself, which it is, slowly.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm turned off by the mention of the fact that there are 'darker' dancers, like that somehow makes them more black. most people can't really control the tone of their skin and there's a wide variety of shades of blackness. her dancers being darker than her doesn't make her less black, ffs.

and fwiw, people should do what they want with their hair and bodies. if she's comfortable and feels good to wear it straightened, that's her right and trying to say 'well, if she's going to be a role model for black women, she should wear it naturally' is pretty dumb since being a strong black woman doing what she pleases is more someone i'd want to look up to than someone saying 'if it ain't natural, you're not black enough'.

[(Anonymous)]

you're not wrong, and that was pretty poor word choice on my part, but you have to admit that, at least when it comes to hair, beauty marketed at black women has been about minimizing the natural state of most black women's hair to look less "black", for whatever that's worth.

on the other hand, there's something to be said about how these long aged practices have become just as intrinsic to black beauty culture as natural hair, too, to the point where cultural association of it is more in line with blackness than what it was originally meant for.

like, we're a long ways away from malcom x shaming black women (and others) who used lye and other relaxers in their hair to try and look 'more white'. but it still wouldn't hurt to have a major black face in the media wearing their hair naturally, either.

[(Anonymous)]

i think some people are also forgetting that natural black hair comes in a variety of styles and while most of it is the really really curly type we associate with afros and 'natural' black, some black women and men have more relaxed hair naturally because of mixed heritage and genetics. outside of that, another thing is that it can be less about 'looking white' and more easier to deal with when you don't have time to manage naturally black hair that isn't kept short. natural black hair can be a pain in the ass and i've known a lot of women that relax it just so they don't have to put so much time into it when they don't have the time for it. others do it because they prefer it. some keep their hair natural and very short to save on time. like, it's all about preference and while yes, a lot of it way back in the day was aimed at making black women look less 'black', that's not such a bad thing to look in this day and age if you want to.

i don't know, i guess i just feel like someone shouldn't be judged for not being a strong member of their culture because they have an aesthetic preference for themselves. it's not like beyonce or any other black woman who straightens their hair is advocating for all black women to do that. most black mainstream female celebrities are very loud with the message of 'you do you' and to be proud of who you are. if you're proud with natural hair, then you do that. but if you want to straighten it, you shouldn't feel ashamed or that you're somehow betraying your culture by doing so.

nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

it is just a song on a fanvid, though. some of us are really tired of every social justice discussion ever being about MUH MEDIAS and PEOPLE DOING FANDOM WRONG because ultimately those are drops in the bucket, while major issues get glossed over because they aren't selling Tidal subscriptions or aren't about yaoi shipping or cosplay.

it's tone-deaf to use that song for white women, sure, but a pop song being used on a fanvid that's probably going to be seen by a handful of people is way low on the priority list compared to fair housing prices, job discrimination, access to public benefits, criminalization of poverty, so on. I don't know about you, but my timeline is more liable to nitpick whether Deadpool is a feminist movie or not, or whether white chicks can cosplay Amethyst, than to even mention voting rights. People want to talk critical thinking and social justice, but only when it's about superheroes and pop stars, then they get bored. that's why people get fed up with the constant nitpicking and policing of ultimately irrelevant media and fanworks. Because it dominates the conversation and ultimately discusses very little.

And no one's even talking about the fact that Beyonce's complicit in capitalist commodification of black people for profit. I mean, she started selling tickets for her Formation tour the day after that superbowl performance. She's using the Black Panthers iconography to sell a brand, and I don't blame her, she's in a system stacked against women like her and needs to do what she can to build her empire and she's certainly not the only one playing that game. But we don't like to criticize capitalism in this country and we should.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

you're falling into a couple of assumption here.

the first, "while major issues get glossed over because", those major issues aren't being glossed over if they're still major. people still talk about them. it's just sites that focus on media and fandom are generally going to have more talk about just that; media and fandom, and believe it or not the very same individuals can be involved in discussions about other topics, ones you feel are more important, elsewhere. the idea of "if you care/are talking about ___, you must not care/talk about ___" is a fallacy. it's not dominating the conversation. the conversations are simultaneous, and happening in multiple places besides the ones that you, specifically, are witnessing.

which kind of feeds into your second assumption. critically thinking about media is not completely intellectually divorced from criticism on other issues, such as exploitative capitalism and the use of social justice as marketing. your entire comment seems to be "but why aren't we one about this instead of that" when the 'this' in question is far better and more effectively discussed elsewhere than a fucking roleplay community.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

it's still just a fucking song.

go back to tumblr.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/65254.html?thread=202501350#cmt202501350

I don't use tumblr, btw. funny how that works.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the thing, people say it's a fallacy all the time, but I have yet to see much evidence that the people armchair activisting it up about Miley Cyrus and Beyonce are actually doing anything in their community. And if they're spending time getting worked up over AMV fanvids, that tells me they're not spending that energy getting worked up about things that actually matter. If you actually engage with activism on an intensive, regular basis, you don't end up with a lot of energy for omg tasteless fanvid.

This is particularly bad in the RP community, where people talk a huge game about social justice and what fierce queen feminist activists they are, and then can't even be bothered to write a letter to their senators, much less march or volunteer. They're reblogging petitions about the lesbians on the 100, that totally counts just as much!

I was more talking about plurk than RPA, but I guess you do have a point that nerds gonna nerd, though, and any place they congregate is going to be all about media and fandom. I just wished they more vocally cared about some other things too.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

idk, I think that's your own confirmation bias, or even just simple anecdotal bias, coloring your thoughts on the matter because, ultimately, you don't know these people or how much energy they have to do this or that. It takes barely any time or energy to screed on social media, so idk why you have this idea that if someone does one, then they simply couldn't do the other. I personally have no trouble managing both.

At least you admit that it's a matter of location, but I think you probably should reconsider your own judgements on this. Or don't, I can't make you do anything, but I think you'd be less disappointed if you chose a less pessimistic/condescending view of people who talk about sociological issues in media.

da

[(Anonymous)]

your experience is right and everyone else's is just "confirmation bias".

ok

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I've considered my judgments on this pretty hard, and honestly people overshare a lot on social media. If they were out feeding the hungry or rallying I think I'd probably hear about it.

I'm glad to hear you manage both. I'm just really tired of feeling surrounded by people who want to be righteous but don't want to put the legwork in and don't seem to get fired up about anything besides dumb fandom shit.

[(Anonymous)]

g2b sara

[(Anonymous)]

who's sara

[(Anonymous)]

that is critical thinking. what you're doing is called a knee-jerk reaction.

when you think critically about it, you realize that there are better things to concentrate on when it comes to race relations than how someone uses a fucking song.

[(Anonymous)]

ok, denselord? they weren't starting change.org petitions about it, they just said it was mildly offputting for them. being slightly irritated by casual racism in the media isn't that out there, especially for people who y'know, aren't white.

[(Anonymous)]

are you going to start calling me poopyface now?

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

it's cute how you get so defensive when other people don't support remaining deliberately ignorant about absolutely everything

[(Anonymous)]

good god you're embarrassing