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"How dare you remove my buttbuddy because she was toxic to the game environment and thus kept players from wanting to app because they didn't feel like being around someone who literally thinks they're lesser human beings."

Not friends with either of them, just in the game and I don't like the idea of anons not even in the game dictating what happens in the game.

And I don't like the idea of rampant homophobes existing in spaces that are generally LGBT-friendly. Sorry but one of us is gonna have to compromise, and given that there have been mods who have defended shitheels and people who have outright defended Phase here (who could be anyone, including a mod because they were anon) I really don't feel comfortable outing myself. Same with others.

Fucking deal with it. It's not like this is "X is playing so-and-so and I'm uncomfortable." This is, "Hey, mods, here's undeniable proof that this person is a highly toxic asshole who is bad for the game and shouldn't be given a free pass." It shouldn't matter the source so long as it's got actual deets.

By this argument, people outside the game shouldn't out someone for plagiarizing, either. Because they're an anon outside the game. No matter the proof.

And if players currently in the game are bothered by it, and have gone to the mods, and are the ones who complained to the mods about the behavior, then sure. Yes, they absolutely deserve to be kicked out.

I'm not arguing that Phase isn't a shitty person. I'm arguing that people who aren't in the game at all have no place going to the mods with shit like "Oh I MIGHT app but not with this player there." The moment mods start kicking out players they have already accepted because an anon out there might join if they are gone is the moment that we stop believing mods have the players' best interest at heart. Even though Phase is a shitty person and absolutely does deserve to be kicked out, this is not a precedent that we want to have set.

I wouldn't bother arguing with this person anymore. They're obnoxious, entitled, and will continue to make extreme accusations and unrelated hyperboles in order to feel like they're a proud lone warrior against the rising tides of villainy and repression (which everyone else has, but not them). They're not interested in seeing anyone else's point of view, it's way more satisfying to paint everyone else as evil.

She never should have been accepted in the first place. What, should Stormy be accepted until someone in the game speaks up? How is it they don't have the players' best interests at heart by removing someone you have stated absolutely should have been removed? Or are you scared something you've done will get you kicked?

I don't disagree with you, she really shouldn't have been accepted. But once someone is already in the game, it should take more to kick them out of said game than the word of anons. Because they're already in the game, they're not hiding who they are, and if an anon not already in the game sees that and does not want to play with them (general 'them', I'm talking about cases besides Phase's here too) then they can join another game instead.

Someone playing in Game X does not affect anyone who is not in Game X, so people who are not in Game X should not get a say in what happens in Game X. Only people who ARE in Game X should get a say, and the moment mods start siding with anons over players that are already in their game is the moment players stop giving mods the benefit of the doubt.

There were fucking pastebins. What more do you want: a signed confession by Phase that she's a bigot?

This isn't a general "you need to take me at my word." This is literal proof. This is some anon coming forward with the equivalent of a smoking gun covered in fingerprints with photographs of that person using it.

You are defending literal human excrement because ~oh noes anons~.

no one is defending phase, though. this thread is literally full of "yes i agree phase is a shitty person." that has absolutely nothing to do with not wanting to set the precedent of kicking players out over anonymous concerns. for all the mods know, no one in the game really cares and everyone is able to ignore it, because no one the mods know has said otherwise. if i had an anon mob talking about how something was such a huge problem and i hadn't heard a single peep about it from my playerbase, i would assume it's anons getting worked up over nothing again. if an anon sent me pastebins, i probably wouldn't even read them because what the fuck is this witch hunting nonsense? talk to me with your name attached if your concern is legitimate.

if a player has gone to them off anon, of course this entire conversation is moot. but there's no proof of that.

There are literally people upthread defending Phase as harmless. in the original thread before she was kicked. About how it's just a disagreement.

Given they're an anon, they could potentially be a mod who is buttbuddies with Phase. Why the fuck would anyone wanting to app into the game out themselves with that risk? I'm sorry you're so paranoid that you're whining about witch hunts. The fact you think this is a witch hunt speaks volumes.

i don't. i would if all i had was an anon comment and zero context (i'm giving the mods the benefit of assuming that most of them don't know about phase). learn to read.

Oh my god anon you are so dense it's not even funny.

I. Am. Not. Talking. About. Only. Phase.

Phase is a shitty person and I am not defending her. What I care about is if the mods are listening to anon complaints, of if it's players currently in the game who are complaining.

Because it's not always as clear-cut as "she literally said homphobic shit". It's not always a clear-cut as "he molested his siblings." It's not always as clear-cut as "she sympathizes with the Boston bomber and woobified him and made an OC of him." Sometimes, it's not clear if someone is in the wrong or if they have a grudgewanker trying to make them miserable.

And because it's not always clear-cut, we have to have an established set of societal rules that we follow EVERY. TIME. Because that is the only thing that ensures fairness in this hobby, which is turn is why we trust mods to run games in the first place. We understand that they will follow these agreed-upon rules and not do shit for arbitrary reasons, and that is what allows games to thrive. Have you seen all the games where mods don't apply rules evenly across the board and they drop into a wank-flood because of it? That's why we need these rules in the first place.

One of those rules happens to be that the word of a person within the game trumps the word of a person not within a game. This rule is supposed to protect the cases where someone has a grudgewanker who is always stirring up trouble with them, so that they're not unfairly booted because their grudgewanker is using "but I miiiiight app but this person makes me so ~uncomfortable~" to get to them. Sometimes, that means we end up with cases like this, where an actually shitty person would fall under that same rule. But we need to stick to that rule every time it comes up, even in cases like this.

And like I've said fifty-million times, none of this applies if it's actual players in the game who complained and got Phase kicked out. From the start I have said it's a bad idea for ANONS ALONE to be able to get someone kicked out of a game they were already accepted to. Players complaining is an entirely different thing.

I'm sorry you're so paranoid that you feel you'll be kicked out because you said something shitty.

The thing is, this is a clear-cut case of someone being toxic. So all your points are moot. This isn't about you and your insecurity of teh ebul anonz. Phase isn't being grudgewanked, and this is the same as if someone not in the game approached going, "Hey, this person plagiarized an app and here's the proof. You should probably kick them."

This isn't, "Teehee, tey maybe made me uncomfortable by existing."

This is, "This person thinks that entire subgroups of people deserve to fucking die and be treated lower than dirt."

Get the fuck over yourself and you dumbass paranoia. It is literally only you who has a problem with teh ebul anonz coming to the mods, even though an anon was defending her and it could be a mod. The only precedent this sets is that the mods are willing to act on clear-cut proof that someone's a shitty person.

I give up. You're clearly not understanding what I'm trying to say, so there's no point in arguing.

look, precedent or not, the mods will and should always have veto rights of who is in their game. if a bunch of anons come to them about 'concerns' that have no basis, in game or not, the mods can go 'haha, good try, loser' and ignore them. but if people, in game or not, come to the mods and go 'hey, this person in your game is fostering a toxic environment by basically saying my existence makes them sick/saying racist and/or homophobic things in a public setting' and there's proof to back it up, the mods can look at that and decide 'do i want that in my game or not'. honestly, they don't even need people coming to them with proof about that. if i modded a game and someone was being that kind of disgusting, i'd boot them on my own. 'sorry, this is my space and i don't want you in it'.

you're arguing that it's about anons and setting a precedent to just lambast people for whatever reason and that they have a right to be in that game.

no, they don't. they, like any player, are allowed to be there because the mods let them. it's the mods' game. if they for whatever reason decide to kick someone, that's their prerogative. if they do it because their bestie wants that char spot, they will likely receive the proper backlash for it and be called out for being dicks. if they do it because someone's fostered a toxic environment, no one's going to be calling the mods out for bad behavior (other than the person booted). this is where your argument is flawed. look at the recent denise/wg incident. people go to her every day about wah wah wankgate and she usually shrugs it off. it's when people cross the line that she gets involved, as she should. this is a similar incident. people can go to the mods and bitch and whine all they want. honestly, as an ex-mod, i've seen bitching over the stupidest things and expectations of people getting booted for being on hiatus when the other person wanted them involved in a plot (for example), so the mods are used to baseless complaints and how to ignore them. bring them anything with meat and they can actually chew on that and do something about it. no one's going to boot nobody mcstranger for being in a game no matter how many anons come in saying that nobody smells and doesn't wash at home. that doesn't affect anyone in game. if nobody mcstranger starts calling people slurs/derisive terms in their plurks, that's a basis for a boot. if someone who might want to app into the game was molested by them, that's a basis for a boot. but it's all going to be up to the mods at their discretion and people complaining about anon complaints and precedent are being stupid. five hundred anon comments about nobody isn't going to get them booted. all it takes is one with deets, which is the case here with phase.

This exactly.

"i'm a lazy idiot who never went to the mods to complain about phase, but i love bitching people out for calling me out on my shit"

...You haven't read a damn thing. This entire thread is literally about people going to the mods anonymously. And someone freaking out because of ~precedent~ and ~witch hunts~ despite there being clear-cut evidence that Phase was a shitty person who shouldn't be in a game.

you really love using the word 'literally' at every opportunity.

minor or whatever wank is different than visible, legitimate disgusting behavior. voting for someone different isn't an issue, saying "i don't like someone" isn't a reason.

even if i don't app, she is still nasty and toxic and the fact that you lack the mental capacity to understand why she is an issue is more of a reason why i wouldn't app than even her being present.

Considering you've been way more toxic and nasty to other people than Phase ever was, I can't begin to tell you what a huge relief this is. Best news I've heard all day.

If it wasn't clear before then, it's clear now you're not even part of the groups she was discriminating against. You wouldn't understand.

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