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non-consensual, then.

no matter how you sliced it, pedophilia happened. there's literally no other word for this. it can be as nuanced and differently-painted pictures of pedophilia as you'd like, it's still fucking pedophilia.

that's literally all i'm saying.

ebophilia. but she went into it knowing how old she was and how old he was and he went into it thinking he was having sex with someone of age. morally, she was in the wrong here. legally, he was. technically, they both were victims and perpetrators and they were both non-consenting since they were both high as fuck.

funny how things aren't just clear cut.

funny how ebophilia still counts as fucking pedophilia no matter how many fancy pretty prefixes you slap onto it

they both fucked up

he fucked up more

via ignorance, not intent. that's the thing to takeaway here, anon. it's not like polansky, where he actually committed rape. david's biggest mistake was believing she was as old as she said she was.

and that's an easy thing to believe when you're addicted to cocaine.

i'm not saying the dude is a rapist but even ignorant pedophilia disgusts people, surprise surprise

if drugs weren't involved and they were both clear-headed and she presented herself as an adult and he believed her (which happens even now), she would be the one morally at fault. it's not like a guy sticks his dick in a vagina and it turns a different color if the vagina's not ripe, ffs. if a girl lies about her age (and even has id to back it up) the fault is not on the guy. it just isn't. i would say that for anyone that this happened to, celebrity or not. he shouldn't have just known. there was no way for him to just know. no one can 'just know'. she lied. end of story.

the fact that drugs were heavily involved makes it just a murky-water mess, but the same logic applies in that she lied about her age, had id backing that up, and was consenting to sex with him. his fault lay in being addicted to drugs, not in fucking a minor since he was under the impression she was not.

he was 30

she was 13. she lied but SHE WAS 13

are you seriously trying to blame a 13 year old and saying she could make rational sexual decisions here

i'm saying she should have been able to make a rational moral decision in any sense. if a thirteen year old had stolen a car and run over pedestrians, would you blame the pedestrians for not getting out of the way fast enough when they drove up on the sidewalk and killed them? no. because you can't control the actions of other people. she made the decision to a) get a fake id, b) insinuate herself into a celebrity group, and c) fuck a celebrity while lying about her age. you can't blame anyone but her for her decisions in that matter. legally, it was stat rape, yes, but bowie was pretty much a victim in that he had no say in whether he chose to sleep with a minor or not. she took that choice away by lying about it.

the idea of blaming the adult comes when the adult is trying to convince the child to sleep with them. in that case, no, the child is not to blame and the adult is for pressuring and being predatory. that's not the case here. teenagers can be predators too. she didn't set out to rape him and i don't think rape happened in really any sense of the word, but she conned him pretty good. because of her lies, he could have wound up being charged for something he had no idea he was doing. i don't care if she was 13 or not, she was in control of her decisions and her decisions led her to be manipulative.

your screaming over her age doesn't change that not all 13 year olds have the same life experience or the same morals. not all teenagers will act the same. she wanted what she wanted and she got it. if it was any other thing outside of sex, she would be held fully at fault for her actions. but bring sex into it and suddenly it's everyone else's fault.

i'm done here

you can continue whiteknight pedophiliac rapists and tl;dr about inadvertently fucking 13 year olds until the cows come home but don't clutch your pearls when people are disgusted with him for sticking it in rather than blame this apparently stunningly intellectual and sexually-mature middle school girl

you're done because you're wrong and you're obviously bored of repeating your wrongness. she has out and out said she did it on purpose. blaming someone for being a victim of her manipulation is pathetic. it could have ended so much worse than it did and she could have ruined the career of an amazing man, all because she was an idiot. she wasn't sexually mature. that was the problem. which is why she didn't think of the actual real world consequences of her actions. she was a dumb little girl playing at being a woman and she's just lucky she didn't wind up with someone that abused that.

dda

(Anonymous) - 2016-01-11 22:04 (UTC) - Expand

Re: dda

(Anonymous) - 2016-01-11 22:09 (UTC) - Expand

tldr: you have no arguments and pitching one last self-righteous fit is the way to go

Re: da

(Anonymous) - 2016-01-11 22:34 (UTC) - Expand

and there are murderers who killed kids when they were around her age or even younger

you try to portray her as a dumb baby with peas for brains and that's not exactly what happened here

She was rational enough to obtain a fake ID.

Kids aren't fucking stupid and incapable of all rational thought and it's downright insulting to kids that you think they are.

man i hope a Madonna story comes out just like this so you can eat your words.

or are you going to be blaming the 13 year old boy?

no, i'll definitely be blaming madonna. i wouldn't be surprised at all to hear a story like this about her, honestly, women can be skeezy too

this is the problem when you try to make this a feminism argument.

tumblr-style sjws already hate madonna, you dingus.

Re: da

(Anonymous) - 2016-01-12 03:16 (UTC) - Expand

> he fucked up more

ah, the tumblrina's eternal mantra

what you're trying to say is bowie was a monstrous predator and lori was an unwitting victim

this wasn't the case. something bad did happen, but this is not a morally black and white matter.

not at all what i'm trying to say, 0/10 points for trying tho

as of maybe a comment ago now that you've been presented with the article and not just the headline of the matter, sure, but for the rest of this thread? don't kid yourself.

don't kid yourself and be so shocked that people don't like the thought of their favorite rock star fucking a 13 year old no matter how drugged and nuanced the story might be

you can not like the fact. no one's telling you otherwise.

but don't sit there and act like he's some evil cackling pedo when that wasn't the fucking case.

if she looked like and acted like an adult, and was as far as bowie knew, then no it's not pedophilia, because he wasn't attracted to a pre-pubescent child. pedophilia is attraction to children who look like children.

i'm not arguing that it was a fucked up thing to do, but you can't call it literally pedophilia when it's literally not, b/c words mean things and stuff.

He thought she was much older than 13. Does that really count?

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