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As a community we love to whine endlessly about generic pretty white guys and how that shit is boring, but as soon as someone without a flawless, perfect looking face comes along we're like "what a hideous freak!"

Come on, anons

it has nothing to do with him not being a pretty white guy and not having a flawless face.

it has everything to do with him looking like an actual horse and being the worst sith ever.

eh, i'd argue on the "worst sith ever" front, considering you have darth "i only serve as a plot device who gets killed within minutes of introduction and looks like a devil designed by juggalos" maul, but kylo ren is not an experienced sith by any means (he hasn't even canonly finished his training) so i can see why people think that.

and yeah, sure, he looks like a horse. it doesn't stop me from liking him or his character, though, and i don't see the point in arguing whether he's pretty or not. the guy looks how he looks and someone people will like that and some people won't. besides, the character is a villain, i'm surprised people were even expecting him to look visually appealing in the first place.

besides, the character is a villain, i'm surprised people were even expecting him to look visually appealing in the first place.

anon, please. a big part of villain charisma, especially in our modern age, is being aesthetically beautiful.

I agree that he's not the worst sith ever, or that his looks shouldn't be a major impact on the character, but come on with this.

well generally, you get a lot more ugly/unattractive villain characters compared to beautiful villains in stories. it's a really easy (and lazy) way to differentiate "bad" from "good", and a lot of stories take it. for example, voldemort, hannibal from silence of the lambs, nurse ratched, the joker, like 80% of disney's animated villains, the cockroach alien from men in black, etc.

but really, i feel like it's not easy to just simply state "villains must be beautiful" or "villains must be ugly" because their appearance plays a role in, well, their role! like villains who hide in plain sight or seem good while being bad all along tend to be attractive (like norman bates or prince hans from frozen), while villains who tend to be the Big Bad tend to be designed with very little regard with how attractive they must be. but even this isn't always common, and sometimes you can have this switched up.

overall, i can't really agree or disagree with you, because arguing over how villains are supposed to look involves a whole lot more factors than just simply "this character is a villain".

norman bates is really weird to see described as someone who's supposed to be attractive, even before the reveal his character was pretty much "twitchy creep too attached to his mother"

it was about the appearance of the character, not about the personality, anon. norman bates was intended to be a somewhat attractive young man in the movie, apparently hitchcock was behind that decision:

"The characterization of Bates in the novel and the movie differ in some key areas. In the novel, Bates is in his mid-to-late 40s, short, overweight and homely. In the movie, he is in his mid-20s, tall, slender, and handsome. Reportedly, when working on the film, Hitchcock decided that he wanted audiences to be able to sympathize with Bates and genuinely like the character, so he made him more of a "boy next door."[12]"

looks like a devil designed by juggalos

Best description of Maul that I've ever seen. Thank you for that, anon.

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