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Well, I probably do read into the responses a little more than the game intended- I'm the kind of person who presses every single conversation option and considers how the Inquisitor I'm playing in the game would feel and how they would angle the situation and the intentions behind the answers given. I have a hard time just taking it at face value because human interactions don't really work like that. I always work on the assumption that the conversations you have in game can't possibly be the only conversations that happen between the characters.

So yeah, I'm probably filling in the blanks a bit more than anyone taking it for what the game presents and what it presents alone, and I'm probably also mis-remembering a bit because it's been a good 6 months or so since I last completed the game.

TL;DR It's lacking but I'm also kind of able to fill in the gaps with my imagination. I shouldn't have to, but, to be completely honest with you, most LIs in most Bioware games need some fill-in-the-blank in order to resemble anything remotely close to actual human relationships.

i think all of us headcanon a bit to fill in the blanks and to expand on scenes, especially if we're really into the game or we write dai fic. my rp partner and i do fix-its for scenes we find particularly lacking or for those we feel we should have gotten.

here's the thing though, with respect to inquisitors in general. we've all played the game. a lot of us, me included, try different dialogue options. but whether male or female, the inquisitors are largely the same. their dialogue options are the same whether male or female. so it isn't like we don't know what to expect with inquisitors. it's the player, who's adding all the headcanon, that makes them different from one another. so when you say stuff like "(That's assuming some pretty awful stuff about someone if you had any idea what the Inquisitor I played was actually like... Yikes.)" yes, we know what they were like because we played the same game you did. we got the same choices, we got the same dialogue, we got the same romance scenes. that's why you come off as a self-insert player, because literally the only thing that makes your inquisitor special happens in your head. which is great that you've developed her beyond what bioware has given us! i did the same with mine, but where other people are concerned, i don't expect anyone to care about him or act like he's some great character li players should want to tag. he's only special to me.

and for someone to headcanon the entire relationship (which is what you have to do if you want it to be a good one) and then try to rp it and expect the li player to just go along with it is the problem. it's your (general you) headcanon for your video game playthrough and your fics and art and whatever. but when you rp with strangers, you can't force it on li players or expect them to just fall in line with whatever you decided. rp is a collaborative effort.

you said your were the op of the original comment, which i'm assuming was the "are there any cullens who don't want the d" comment. here's my advice to you, if you want cullen players to play with you. don't tag with the expectation of an established relationship. offer to build it with the player, if they're willing to ship the inquisitor and cullen. that way you're both developing the relationship and it isn't one-sided and only a rewarding experience for you. acknowledge that you're aware of the game's flaws and let the player know you want to build a GOOD relationship between them, instead of approaching it as "omg perfect relationship, so sweet, love my inquisitor" like i've seen people do. because that is terribly off-putting and a big warning sign to avoid overinvested self-insert players.

and don't worry about who else the cullen player tags. whether they have a hundred m/m threads is irrelevant if they're interested in playing m/f with you. i play a lot of m/m with cullen, but i've got a few m/f threads and i adore them. i would love to play more of them (if i could find female castmates who wanted to play it with me).

i'm not saying this to pick on you. i'm trying to help you understand how players with a similar attitude to yours come off to those of us who play the li characters and why we're so hesitant to tag inquisitors.

because i want to play with inquisitors. i want to deal with the marriage and the loss of the inquisitor's arm so badly. there are so many things i want to play with cullen and the inquisitor and it's frustrating that i can't find inquisitors to do it with.

i'm the other anon down below and you've basically said everything i could've said back, so here to just +1 and say i'm glad i'm not the only one seeing things this way.

i was so glad to see this. it encapsulated pretty much everything i wanted to say in response to that comment. the only thing i want to elaborate on is something someone else touched on.

the very unfortunate fact is that dozens of players of wardens, going all the way back to the release of Origins, have ship pushed and been incredibly entitled and dismissive of companion players, treating them like accessories to the all about the warden show. when inquisition came along, we were then flooded with the exact same behavior and attitudes from inquisitor players. many of the people drawn to playing inquisitors were the same ones who played the wardens before that.

what that leaves potential future inquisitor players with is a lot of very wary companion players who are on the look out for the behaviors that put them off of playing with dozens of wardens and inquisitors before this new unknown comes along. you can't just erase the cumulative bad experiences a lot of us have had by saying you're different, or you're nice, or you have better intentions. you have to not exhibit the traits that are warning signs. defensiveness about the inquisitor is one of the biggest ones. the instant i sense defensiveness about the character itself when we've both played the same game, some of us repeatedly, i'm out.

defensiveness ooc of any criticism of the dialog options in the game, wanting to regurgitate game scenes where the inquisitor was given gifts or doted on, wanting to start the rp with the romance already solid and developed without bothering to find out what the other player wants first, glossing over issues or concerns the companion character has, power gaming, coming across as using the character as your personal axe to grind over whatever sj issue you've attached to the game, whining about how you saw me playing x with y character so why not yours, sending me worried pms that you've "done something wrong" when my character snaps at yours or disagrees with something they want. it would be nice to say this has only happened once or twice. no. dozens of people since 2009 behaving the same ways over and over.

that's what you're up against when you decide to play a malleable protag here in this fandom. walk into it with your eyes open, be sensitive to the fact that you're dealing with jaded, fatigued players when it comes to the protags, and don't make the same mistakes. you're going to have to earn some trust. whether it's fair or not, that's the situation. if you still don't understand it, i'd recommend picking up a popular li for a while and playing them in public places. trust me when i say you'll get a big taste of everything all of us have been talking about pretty quickly.

you said your were the op of the original comment, which i'm assuming was the "are there any cullens who don't want the d" comment.

I think this is where the whole conversation goes off the rails because I'm not the person who made that comment and that isn't how I feel at all. I don't care who you play with aside from me, at all.

I'm the person who made the "I'm upset because you guys are being shafted out of good play by bad characters who want to make it about themselves/their character and not about the interaction/both characters together as a unit" commenter.

I understand you guys have played with some really lackluster people but I kind of feel like you're making assumptions about me and the way I play and my expectations of what I'd want out of playing without actually hearing them. (Because to be honest the best part of a relationship is the build-up, especially in a long-term roleplay engagement I'd be really annoyed with just assuming the relationship is already in play- and that kind of sounds like the kind of thing you're saying is in the 'want' pile.)

IDK I've been kind of turned off from this whole thing at this point thanks to the misunderstanding I guess, but I do hope you guys find what you're looking for because I understand how frustrating it can be to want to play something but to never find anyone who can hit all of the right notes as a player and a writer to do it for you.

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