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that saber thread got me thinking about this franchise and i just have one question

why does enkidu look like that

enkidu modeled himself after the harlot shamhat because he found her so beautiful. he can look like whatever he wants besides, he's made of mud, he just chooses that form out of respect for her.

the saber thread makes me realize that butthurt is about 10 years too late (FSN vn came out in 2004...)

also yeah, what anon above said abotu enkidu

the fsn vs. zero divide is still pretty intense and saber's a contentious character with questionable narrative treatment. it's to be expected.

it's not as if there was an anime adaptation that just finished airing a few months ago or anything

i'm personally cringing at the fad players who watched ubw and nothing else. they're always obvious right away.

damn fake nerds only watching ONE version of an incredibly sprawling canon...

it's one vn and a prequel for the core canon. i wouldn't call that incredibly sprawling.

anon, the vn is around 800k words. there's two vns if you're going to be a dick and include f/ha. ccc is pretty much required reading if you're playing gil. that's a pretty significant time sink.

i cringe at people who only watched zero and refuse to even look at anything related to fsn because not muh grimdark kiritsugu

kiritsugu is insufferable but i really can't blame people for liking zero over fsn. it might be excessively Dark and Egdy(tm) but it also doesn't have any of the bishoujo game elements, which are the most excruciating parts of fsn.

also, there's no point in pretending that heaven's feel isn't also a mess of emo grimdark nonsense

i feel like the only person who couldn't care less about heaven's feel, and apparently complaining about sakura's narrative amounting to a nonstop hamhanded angst buffet on that route is tantamount to sacrilege in the fandom and makes me a secret self-misogynist or something

zero definitely suffered from being way too le cool and edgy in places though, not arguing that

i wish people would just admit that sakura is a pretty flat character. she shouldn't have been, but she is. heaven's feel is only good for giving kotomine an actual personality and reason for the way he acts.

though to be honest, i do feel like sakura's romance with shirou makes the most sense and doesn't feel as forced as the other two.

Personally, as someone who holds HF as my favorite route by far, I don't do that because of Sakura.

I do it because of Ilya.

If wishes were horses you'd still be lame as hell.

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