rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2015-09-28 03:29 pm

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Re: TALES OF

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots? She isn't in skits, which are like 50% of the characterization in tales games. She isn't in battle, which is like 70% of the play time in tales games. You only run into her every now and then, she isn't a constant presence, even if she's plot relevant. How are you this dense?

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
by this logic, pre-ps3 flynn should never have been appable and lots of people played him. and there were also tons of people who wrote ridiculously long essays about xbox flynn.

this isn't the first time tales has had an important character not be a stable party member. just because they aren't a consistent party member doesn't automatically make them unimportant or "less special."

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
erm... eh? I'm not saying Alisha is unimportant to the plot, or that she doesn't get a decent amount of characterization. I'm saying there is a definitive difference between being a party member and not being one, and it's natural for people to be disappointed that a character they like isn't a party member.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
but that... doesn't change one bit of what i said. alisha was a party member and she became a stable in the dlc. i get being disappointed that alisha isn't a party member in the main story, but the tantrums being thrown as if this ruined the whole game is just weird.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
the dlc lasts like 6 hours.

And the marketing was an outright lie, is the thing people are having issue with. Alisha was promoted as being one of the main party members and she wasn't. Flynn was on the box, but the promotional material never showed him in the party in places where he wasn't like what happened with Alisha. heck, it never showed him in the party at all IIRC.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
they talked a lot about Alisha at the beginning but they never said she was a main party member. they just talked about her as a girl that sorey meets who changes his life. that's not mispromoting that's people over hyping and getting themselves disappointed.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2015-10-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
lol don't believe Baba's lies.

A lot of the pre-release marketing, including interviews, outright called her a main character. She's still listed second on the Characters list on the main website. She's the first female character you're introduced to in the game.

It's not such a stretch to assume the second-billed character, and the first female character you're introduced to in the story, is the main female lead. It's basic storytelling.

+1

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
when zestiria was announced, sorey and alisha were the first two characters announced with it. there shouldn't have been any need to explicitly say "sorey is the main lead, and alisha is the main female lead." just by showing them two first, it can be assumed that they're the two main leads. that's just how it usually works.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
here's your baba and binky

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No thanks, they've been in your mouth.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
so how do you explain the trailers having alisha in fights and scenes that she isn't actually in in the game

da

(Anonymous) 2015-10-03 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Which trailers?

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I can't find it right now but it was the scene where the party is prepping to fight that big dragon. IIRC it was even playable at TGS with alisha in the party. In the actual game she's already left by that point.

My theory is the game was meant to have two routes - it'd explain all the choices that don't affect shit - but Alisha's route got cut.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Which big dragon? There's a few dragons in the game and she's there for most of them.

If you mean the demo where you're in the diseased town and the boss is that dragon puppy (drake in the English version?), she's with you there in the game, too.

da

(Anonymous) 2015-10-04 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
as someone who speaks japanese and stayed up late to watch the initial zestiria announcement live stream when sorey and alisha were introduced, she was explicitly introduced as the game's main heroine.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2015-10-05 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
as someone who speaks japanese and stayed up late to watch the initial zestiria announcement live stream when sorey and alisha were introduced, she was not explicitly introduced as the game's main heroine.