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did the "fedora-wearing MRA" stereotype come from reddit or 4chan? which userbase was it originally describing

the kind of proto-stereotype was describing 4chan but reddit was what really refined it into what it is

reddit, 4chan actually has enough self-awareness to only do the fedora thing ironically.

i'm being a shitlord but ironically

yeah reddit

4chan's userbase is primarily basement-dwellers but not all basement-dwellers are fedora-wearing MRAs

reddit thinks it's cool, 4chan (usually) knows it's not

it formalized in reddit but was heavily based out of PUA and "peacocking" (the ringleaders told a bunch of hapless nerds to wear fedoras, and by god, they did)

4chan to reddit to voat, actually. a lot of the neckbeards were driven away from reddit because of what they complained was an "sjw invasion."

"sjw invasion."

what happened

there was a female ceo and the moderators/admins started deleting pedophiliac, racist, and sexist subreddits

so pretty much it was an SJW invasion.

sexist and racist probably means overt shit like "killallniggers" or "slapabitch" and obvious shit like that

i love how "sjw invasion" means stuff like deleting a subreddit encouraging rape

yeah those darn liberals sure are ruining civil discourse

remember when "sjw" referred to actual bad behavior instead of things like "not being a pedophile"

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

not even that. they started deleting subreddits with mods that harassed/brigaded other subreddits, and their racist etc subject matter wasn't relevant to the decision.

but free speeches etc

oh wait they did specifically ban "revenge porn", aka posting other people's nudes when the person didn't want them to. this mostly means that if the person in the picture sends a request about a specific picture the mods have to take that picture down.

TYRANNY

they also deleted subreddits advocating physical violence, sexual assault, and domestic abuse, but by then, most of the neckbeards had already migrated to voat