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I don't know if you remember the Croup and Vandemar from dear_multiverse who got banned years ago, but that's the player we're talking about and they haven't changed in all those years.

They've also were banned from LJ SWS for constant player harassment and bakerstreet for the same. And this is coming from someone who has been dealing with them being unable to take no for an answer for years.

http://memebells.livejournal.com/278270.html?thread=279300606#t279300606
http://memebells.livejournal.com/278270.html?thread=278855422#t278855422

Girliemod here.

Clearly this player has annoyed a bunch of people. And I get that, sometimes things just don't click. That's perfectly alright, we're all adults here after all. I hope you can see our viewpoint that, that in itself not a reason to ban somebody, though.

If an issue arises in our community, we promise that it'll be dealt with swiftly and surely. Anyone who has been clearly told OOC to stop and refuses to do so will be dealt with. As mods though, we do try our very best to remain as fair as possible. So we feel that there has to be a clear example of someone making that request OOC and of it being ignored before we take action.

different anon to the above chiming it (posted below)

i think you're missing the point here a little. it's most just this player being annoying that's their problem, it's how they refuse to show any respect at all for any of their fellow players and essentially treat everyone that isn't them like toys in their sandbox

see here, where a player expresses frustration over this player continuing to tag them despite being asked repeatedly not to:
http://memebells.livejournal.com/278270.html?thread=278963454#t278963454

see also here, in which an irl caseworker attempts to explain to her why people are having problems with her and is rudely rebuffed:
http://memebells.livejournal.com/308160.html?thread=293182400#t293182400

and see also here, in which they bully and godmod a new member of the community into going along with their violence/cannibalism kink:
http://dear-multiverse.livejournal.com/4504620.html?thread=256757036

this player's problems go way past simply being annoying. they have zero respect for anyone that is not themselves, refuse to take no for an answer and endlessly spam whatever community they're ever a part of, taking advantage of people who don't know about their seamy reputation to get the fetish fuel they want

most damningly, this player admitted once, and i really want to find this link for you so hopefully i'll have a follow-up soon, they admitted that they push the cannibalism/violence stuff so hard because they are using their character's victims are proxies for 'bullies' they dealt with in real life. that goes past beyind an annoying player, or even a toxic one. that's downright psychotic

Okay, I am trying to catch up on all the reading. Please be patient, I just rolled outta bed about an hour ago so I'm still waiting for my brain to get into high gear. But we are taking this seriously.

thank you

i apologize if that last reply came off as a bit on the hostile outside, it's just that this player has a long history of weaseling her away into comms because of people feeling sorry for her and then shitting them up until they die

i really want this place to get off the ground and be a part of it but i just won't deal with this player again. you couldn't pay me enough, i'm sorry to say

We're going through every single link here, I can assure you.

I understand that static text can make it difficult to convey tone and nuance, so don't worry. We're all just trying to make a nice place.

Thank you for your support, and I completely understand where you're coming from. We're going to continue reviewing all the information everyone is being kind enough to share with us.

While we can't guarantee an auto-ban, we can guarantee that this person will be watched like a hawk should they join Sages and any of this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated.

We hope our vigilance will be enough to assuage your concerns.

Edited 2015-06-03 18:10 (UTC)

I'm actually pretty impressed with how you're handling this.

Thank you! I work in advertising, so diplomacy and putting forward the best face possible are 101.

Backing it up is the next part. Which we are also good at. ;)

Edited 2015-06-04 04:21 (UTC)

I get it. I really do, I've been there. We do have it in our rules that you don't have to deal with anybody. So if someone you know you don't like tries to engage, you can just say "no" and then ignore them. If they persist, we'll step in and handle it.

I'll be blunt: being wishy-washy and people pleasing is not a good attitude for a mod. There are problem players that should be preemptively banned like Stormy and Kevin and such. People aren't going to want to tag because these people throw absolute FITS just because people won't tag them back, and will harass even when you say you don't want to be tagged by them.

What's wishy-washy about pointing out we have rules and will enforce them?

If someone throws a fit like described, they'll be dealt with.

What's wishy-washy is that you're not going to take a preemptive stand against horrible people because you MIGHT upset someone.

It has nothing to do with upsetting people. It has to do with the standard of fairness by which I try to live my life.

If I were really that scared of upsetting people, I'd be more pliant to the demands being made here.

that's not wishy washy, anon. that's just not wanting to commit to something like a ban on behavior that hasn't happened around them. they're giving the player(s) the benefit of the doubt. come on. we know what shitlords master and selwyn are. they'll show their ass in the comm if they join early on enough and get banned on their own merit in there. it's not like they've changed.

Damage will be done by then and people won't want to join.

weh weh wehhh. stop projecting your feelings on how other people are going to behave just because you didn't get your way. if they actually ban when people do things that are banworthy then they'll be fine.

or... someone will call them on their shit, take it to the mods, and the mods will act on the actions given then. the world is not your fucking hamster ball, anon. you want that kind of protection, expecting other people to cater to you is not the way to go about it.

u so mad

They're the one player out of all DWRP who's got potential to become a James Holmes.

Okay, wow, that was a lot of reading.

Yes, this player very obviously has a problem with concrit. A disturbing problem they should discuss with a licensed professional, and I hope they've done so at some point in the intervening years.

But this is from three years ago. People can change. Yes, I know it's unlikely, but I also know it's possible. I believe in second chances. Gods know I've been given a few in life, probably more than I deserved.

So while this is good to know and a reason to keep an eye on certain accounts more closely, I don't think it's a reason to ban anybody yet because there's no evidence that this behavior has continued.

If you can provide evidence from this year, something that shows that the same problems continue to occur, then that would change things. And by "evidence" I don't mean "oh here's a thread where I think they RP badly and I hate how they play this character" (these are legit reasons to make a personal choice to not play with someone but they're not reasons to ban someone from a whole community); I mean "here's proof they've been told to leave someone alone within the last 6 months and they haven't done so" or "here's proof recently where they had another meltdown about concrit" or something like that.

No permanent decisions have been made. We're still in information-gathering mode over here.

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