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lol the unseelie game plan is even worse and results in way more casualties

the unseelie elitism in this game is pretty funny given that it's been established that both sides are going at it the wrong way, i don't see how anyone sane could support what either court's doing

overthrow the monarchs endgame or bust

I guess it depends on what you're playing it for? Most characters would prefer to lean towards the 'how about we don't blow everything up' aspect. It all depends on who knows what about each side and what they're playing for. Not entirely sure where you're getting elitism from, from either side, tbh. Unseelies get pointed out all the time as having more high level chars that can hand out quests and it's been brought up before that there haven't been enough Seelies with the same levels or willingness to hand out quests to their side (Seelies seem to be more segregated and secular with their cr), but I'm kind of hoping the new quest system fixes that.

I'm also pissed the option for a third court got taken off the table. I had no idea it was ON the table, other than as something sort of occasionally mentioned as a 'wouldn't it be nice' sort of thing. Then suddenly it's not even an option anymore? That's part of the problem of a small bubble of cr having all the info. None of the rest of the game even knew about it to react to it or try to sway it one way or the other. I know a few characters that certainly would have tried.

For a while I understood that even though Reynard's attempt to raise a third court failed, it was still possible/in the cards that someone else could make the attempt.

i think it's actually impossible now because we just lost a few of the sigils needed to make it happen. so there may still be a third option, but sundered court no longer is it.

I think above anon is right. Something something sigils that no one knew about and now we're screwed. I kind of wish a group of seelies/unseelies would get together, remove their shards and use them to do something incredibly powerful and either start a third court or nullify something. I don't know. I just like having alternative options and the ones up are kind of lame.

it seems going shardless will be more in vogue now? i've seen a lot more discussion of people considering it, and if you're free of the courts you've got a lot more room to take initiative on your own and do something. i know my character probably won't be sharded for too much longer with what they're planning.

It has its own limitations: not being able to use the fairy rings, no lockets. i'm not entirely sure about being welcome at either court? but if people work out alternatives, it might be worth it.

the only thing i'm worried about is boons being taken away and that's pretty much the only thing holding me back from immediately doing it. with how limited they've become and with how much my character has to earn back it's the biggest turn-off for me right now.

the rest can be worked around i think and characters like faolan still hang around their old courts, so as long you plan for it accordingly it should be feasible.

I don't think boons get taken away since you can still GET boons when you're shardless. That might be something needing to be clarified. It's possible more people would be open to being shardless if they didn't think they'd lose everything they worked for.

From the FAQ:

DO THE SHARDLESS QUALIFY FOR BOONS?

No. Shardless will not be permitted allegiance to either the Seelie or Unseelie faction and cannot qualify for boons. They can always, however, reap the benefits of any event. (For example, if slaying a monster spills gold and jewels from the creature's belly, they are free to keep them!)

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(Anonymous) - 2015-06-01 23:39 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2015-06-01 23:36 (UTC) - Expand

Plus shardless characters can never return to their homeworlds no matter what the outcome of the war is. A lot of characters are motivated by the possibility of returning home.

Plus the fact that you can't get boons anymore.

You can get boons, anon. There's no reason why you can't. You just have to be involved in the events that go up. You might have more freedom to pick which side you do what on, but I don't believe that boons were taken away/kept from being used by shardless. They can still gain influence and taking away boons seems like an unfair punishment.

da

(Anonymous) - 2015-06-04 22:09 (UTC) - Expand

It'd be a good idea. Maybe there's a way to bring this up on the CR/Plotting meme at the end of the month, and get some traction on it?

what i meant is that a lot of players seem to be under the legitimate assumption that unseelie is the most "correct" side to be on, when neither side is all that appealing when you actually think about it critically and all the monarchs are pretty bonkers.

i do agree that it sucks the reynard plot was limited to so few. newbies basically didn't even get the chance to learn about anything related to it and the push to get the info out was late and seemed kind of spurred on by the wank surrounding it, tbh. didn't come across as very genuine.

what makes you say that, anon? it seemed like it was natural for it to come out after ariadne's spire was attacked

as someone in seelie, i wish the mods could give us something to better convince characters of why they should side with the seelie monarchs and believe the void is a good thing. i feel like they have a bigger hill to climb but they haven't made any effort to do so. I think a plot that legitimizes the seelie court's position would be really helpful.

i think the problem is that people are seeing the unseelie's scheme as legitimate by comparison. honestly it sounded to me like destroying the void would take most of existence with it, leaving little more than the drabwurld for as long as it lasts

mods confirmed that IS the unseelie scheme. other worlds will die out if this happens and once just the drabwurld's left, it's eventually going to die too due to entropy and then there's just going to be nothing at all.

so hilariously enough, the seelie really are the "correct" side if we're thinking longterm, since they're continuing the natural cycle of rebirth rather than stale preservation.

Yeah basically both sides are bogus with the Seelie wanting everything to go out with a bang so life can continue and the Unseelie basically being like "eh all life can end but WE'RE ok."

but the other worlds would die out at the end of their natural life cycle, not immediately, iirc

No they would eventually just fade out slowly and no life ever comes back.

yes, when those worlds would have died anyways (as in, the heat death of that universe basically) so everything gets to continue living until then but once they die that's it

i got the impression they might all die when the void is destroyed, that's pretty immediate

the seelie monarchs said that the worlds would die a slow death, which i took to mean the natural end of that universe. so it's universes that already exist get to keep existing as they were but when they die out that's the end vs. current universes/people die now but a new cycle is created.

if the unseelie side is "all universes still die right now but people in the drabwurld keep living" then that'd change a lot of perspectives i imagine, so i wish they'd clarify.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-06-02 22:04 (UTC) - Expand

all the GAME PLAN STUFF is ridiculous magicbabble that's impossible for anyone without autism to care about or keep straight

the unseelie npcs are actually interesting, that's the reason for elitism

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