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anon a doctor can handle complications (like the umbilical cord strangling a baby and resuscitating it) better then a midwife because they have better training and better tools based on fact and not preference.

you also get better and more delicious drugs

i'm honestly really surprised that you don't think a midwife is capable of the same. neonatal care is their forte and resuscitation (if needed) or unwrapping the umbilical cord is part of their training. i don't know how it is in the states, but in canada, there's a four year midwifery course in certain universities. they don't just decide they want to look at vaginas and slap on a degree. they go to school and are educated on that shit.

you can also have drugs with a midwife. (in canada, at least) i opted for just the epidural, but they ask you pre-birth (since you're going to them the entire pregnancy and getting regular check ups, just like you would an OBGYN) what your preferences are for your birth. if you'd like it in the hospital or at home. who you'd like present. do you want music? do you want drugs? what kind of drugs? they have legal documentation they get you to sign and depending on what you chose, they have all their i's dotted and t's crossed. i had an 8 hour birth with no need for an episiotomy, no tearing/stitches, and just the epidural. i had it in the hospital and left the day after with a healthy baby and with myself in no distress.

i get that this isn't everyone's experience, some have better, some have worse, but that sort of thing isn't that uncommon where i did this. a lot of women i knew happily use midwives. it's growing in canada as a legitimate alternative, along with doulas.

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2 out of 3 is 26.66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666667% to many to justify using one when there is a better and saner option available

then they're doing the study in the wrong fucking place with skewed results, anon. because every single person i know who's had a midwife during their birth, whether at home or in the hospital, had a healthy child that survived. and the number is up in the high doubles. that's just who i personally know. it's a limited pool, but without 1 issue in that pool, i'm doubtful of these numbers. statistics aren't always taken by unbiased parties, particularly medical statistics.

people are allowed to still make their own decisions. we're not under martial law where we can have only one child and the women are artificially inseminated after her egg and the father's sperm has been genetically altered.

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oh my god please just... fuck. go far, far away, and take your backwards-ass beliefs with you and away from civilization.

stop talking about statistics when you've already proven you don't even know what they fucking mean

jesus christ you're stupid

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pls be a troll.

the problem with that number is that they're lumping midwives who do home deliveries with midwives who work exclusively in hospitals. those are nowhere near the same thing. in the US a certified nurse-midwife has a 4-year nursing degree and a masters in midwifery. they have all the oversight and all of the skills of an OB/GYN, and are a perfectly safe alternative in most pregnancies. they don't do c-sections, and there are parameters in place that dictate when a patient is high-risk and needs to be handed off to an OB/GYN that specializes in those sorts of cases. they deliver in hospitals, with all the safeguards such a facility provides.

are there midwives who do home births? yes. and are there unlicensed people calling themselves midwives? yes. but just because someone said they chose a midwife doesn't mean they had some backwoods crone deliver their child. they probably had an experience very similar to that of someone who saw an ob/gyn, the main difference being that a midwife will spend a hell of a lot more time with you, and pay way more attention to your preferences and comfort levels than your average ob/gyn will, especially in the U.S. where doctors find it preferable to have patients give birth on their schedules, and often use drugs or surgery unnecessarily to make that happen.

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