hm i guess we have pretty different reads on him. i get barely any of that from dave, personally, but he's not one of the characters who i've devoted tons of thought to or anything

i always saw him as someone who is a bit of a showboat and makes an effort to be a cool chill guy to his internet friends, but who doesn't really have a lot of drive usually. a lot of the stuff he does happened because other people got the ball rolling in some way, whether it's the ironic persona, sbahj, or going god tier. the other kids pursued their own agendas (or in john's case, vriska's) but it seemed like dave spent a lot of his time supporting them instead.

he doesn't even seem that crafty to me, aside from being able to turn a phrase.