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I count two people on my plurk page bitching about how the mods should have made it public knowledge that there would be a snake encounter and that everything is ruined now and they have no business running a game this way.

I have no words.

What? I guess because their characters showed up to the meeting without a weapon?

If knowing about the snakes in advance would have changed that, wouldn't that be infomodding?

No. They're both people who didn't have characters involved in the meeting at all. Because only care about echo opportunities.

squigs, right

that entire plurk was just embarassing tbqh

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sideyed that

what plurk was that?

http://pastebin.com/xfjAcyBg

some of us were handwaving our characters having gone because ICly they would have been there but OOCly we didn't want to play it out. and then it exploded, and this low-commitment thing we'd committed to suddenly became high-commitment without warning.

likewise there are people who just opted not to have their characters go and they are now scrambling to find a way to get in on it because they want to participate.

i think a vague 'hey plot shit will be going down at this meeting' warning when the thread went up would've been nice; they didn't need to tell us exactly what was going to happen.

I can see being irritated at the former situation (even though you can still handwave?), but the latter type of person complaining is just stupid

We were told out of character that "plot shit would be going down" at the meeting

That was the entire point of it

The log info even has "Nothing could go wrong, certainly?" written there if you wanted an indication that things would go down aside from the actual important plot developments

If your character/s icly have any interest in the overarching plot of the game at all then they should have already been at the meeting. If not, you're basicly complaining because you missed out on infomoding yourself an echo opportunity.

some people opted not to go for the same reason that others opted to handwave, though.

the mods have been asked previously to give better warning for plot events so that people could prepare for them OOCly and be ready to get involved when they happened, and the mods said they would be sure to do that, and then when this happened they didn't. I think it's understandable that some people are upset about that.

some people opted not to go for the same reason that others opted to handwave, though.

So

What are you getting at here exactly

Players made an ooc choice to not engage with plot and then missed out on an echo for it

Echoes are easy to get if you actually play in the game and don't handwave everything, more at eleven

the mods have been asked previously to give better warning for plot events so that people could prepare for them OOCly and be ready to get involved when they happened, and the mods said they would be sure to do that, and then when this happened they didn't. I think it's understandable that some people are upset about that.

That was after the surprise earthquake, which was a fuckup

This isn't like the earthquake though

The snakes showing up in the log doesn't have far-reaching instantaneous consequences over the game environment

The only thing actually being changed by this outside the stated log function ("let's talk about the alien" and, if you actually bothered to open the log, "let's talk about the snakes") is that David Proud died

That's it

If people are upset then it's because their self-induced lack of plot involvement lost their character an echo, boo fuckety hoo

The people I've seen complaining are the type of players who just don't bother to keep up with the plot. You apped into a game that's advertized as plot-heavy, people. If you don't get involved in that then naturally you're going to miss out.

Anger and disappointment about how quickly the resolution got seized, I can understand. I'm annoyed about it, too.

But seeing as the meeting itself was meant to be IC prep for the biggest plot event lined up (attacking the alien) and attendance was mandatory for characters to be involved in that, complaining about missing the snake attack because your characters didn't go is like complaining that you didn't know there would be free cookies at a meeting you didn't go to.

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