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so I'm watching Madoka Magica for the first time and I'm on episode like 7 or something, basically just after Madoka threw Sayaka's jewel out and they all discovered that the Soul Gem holds their souls. everyone is freaking the fuck out about this and I seriously can't figure out why.

doesn't everyone (who believes in souls) think of souls and bodies as being separate, anyway? at first i thought maybe they were freaked out because having the soul in that gem would make it easier to lose or more vulnerable, but kyubey explains that is actually the opposite of the truth. so I really don't understand what the big deal is. is it something cultural or am I just weird to not really place any importance on bodies?

I kind of agreed with you anon, I didn't really get what the fuss was either. Apparently they thought of themselves as now being zombies because of it, but that seemed kind of out of left field to me. Especially Sayaka taking the leap to OH NO NOW MY MAN WILL NEVER LOVE ME but she doesn't appear to be any different...

doesn't everyone (who believes in souls) think of souls and bodies as being separate, anyway?

iirc that's not as much the case in shintoism. which would explain the number of sci-fi anime with cyborgs that have identity crises.

for me, part of the horror was that this was a permanent change that had been done to them without any of them realizing it until then

maybe it's the kind of feeling you'd get if you learned one day your brain wasn't actually located in your head, it was saved in a jar somewhere, and you've been walking around without up there it all this time. that would be really unsettling, wouldn't it?

It's a Japanese cultural thing.

I've always likened it to being that they accidentally became a lich without being told that.

aside from everything else, their bodies are physically stuck at 14. unless they use up some of their magic i guess.

i'm really not sure where that idea came from or why so many people seem to cling to it when one of the witches was implied to have been an adult when she fell into despair

Lolicons.

It's implied that Mami (and Kyoko) contracted about a year or so before the series' start. And Mami, at least, has grown since then.

Also, citation needed. There was nothing in the series stating that magical girls are stuck at whatever age they contracted at.

in addition to what was said above, i think it also has to do with the presentation of the reveal. madoka tosses the soul gem and sayaka is fine for a few moments, but then suddenly she just collapses like a corpse and no one is able to get her to respond. only homura knows what's going on and she just immediately beelines for the gem, while kyouko and madoka are freaking out and kyuubey is just calmly explaining what happened.

it's a very unsettling scene is what i'm getting at. i think if kyuubey explained it earlier it would have been surprising but not quite as shocking or panicked.

are you autistic?

What? Other people said it was kind of strange, too.

i suspect either a ~rational~ anon or someone wanting buttpats for being weird

How would they want buttpats for not understanding something?

Is there something wrong with you?

Buttpats is the wrong word, but it's common to hold up a dissenting opinion as a sort of egograb for being special (see "Am I the only one..."). This doesn't seem to be one though.

wtf, anon?

I think there's also a sense of they actually didn't the soul gems held their literal souls. They thought it just had magic stuff in it, and to find out your very being is now outside of your body and you don't actually inhabit it anymore is pretty unsettling. While it's true that the body and soul are considered two different things, they are also considered things that are merged together to form a person and that only death (or cursed soul stealing demons/objects/whatever) will separate them.

are you kyubey

you should have read your dreamwidth terms of service better.

now you know what you clicked accept to.

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