rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2013-12-30 05:31 am

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
mte. rolling my eyes at the anon whining about how personality sections are like essays and they're so hard... you are literally just writing a list of traits in sentence/paragraph form and giving canon examples. that's not an essay, that's a description. you kind of need to be able to write descriptions in order to rp...

-1

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Now in the right place. Damn it.

It sounds like your personality sections are shitty if that's how you write them. People are more than just a list of traits. If you're seriously writing those sections like "X is brave. We see this in canon when she stands up to her father. X is also smart. She has a master's degree and solves xyz puzzle halfway through the story." that's boring and shitty and mods probably hate reading your apps, and the only reason why you don't get rejected or asked for revisions is because you technically never say anything that's untrue or ooc. I'm saying this as a mod. To me, that's barely even a personality section. It's just a simplified history section with adjectives slapped on it, and if it weren't for my co-mods I would ask for revisions on that shit every single time. A good personality section flows well, is cohesive, and there's a logical progression from thought to thought and from paragraph to paragraph. It also should have a reader-friendly introduction and a well tied-off conclusion. You know what that makes it? A fucking essay. I don't have problems writing apps myself, but I completely understand people who do.

-1

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I am so glad you aren't my comod. As another mod, I don't give a shit if a personality section is well written and flows well and has a logical progression from paragraph to paragraph or a god damn conclusion. What does that have to do with how well someone can RP the character? I tend to write personality sections for my own characters that conform to what you describe here but that's because that's my idea of fun, and it doesn't need to be everybody's – I'm not going to be having essay-offs with my players after they app in.

I don't care if they're good at writing an essay. I care if their samples show good writing, and I care if they convey all the necessary information about the character so that I know what the character's deal is when I read the samples, so that I can tell if they're being consistent. Yeah it's nicer to read if it's well written but ultimately that's not the kind of thing I'm going to ask for revisions for, why the hell would you do that? I would be just as happy to look over a list of bullet points about the character's personality, honestly, it amounts to the same thing in terms of actual function.

+1

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
As long as the personality section covers all of the important aspects of the character, I really don't care whether it's an essay or a list of bullet points. I'm interested in whether what the player writes matches up with what they portray in their samples.

I write my own personality sections by making a list of traits, grouping them together into related groups, and then expanding each one into a couple of sentences and pulling in examples from canon to back them up. I don't know why you think you need an introduction and a conclusion when you're not making an argument - the progression from trait to trait should be logical, yes, but it's ultimately just a list in descriptive paragraph form.

Re: -1

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, because it comes off to me like the person rushed through the app and didn't really give a shit about what they were writing. idk about you, but personally I like to think I'm pretty good at judging which apps were written with care and which ones were just slapped together at the last minute. They don't have to be A+ essay of the year all years with the most flawless writing skills of all time, but I would like to see a little polish. If it feels like the person's attitude while writing the app was "w/e just get it done idgaf apps don't matter anyway" then I'm sorry but that's not really what I'm looking for in a prospective player. Why should I give a shit about your app if you don't give a shit about your app?

sa

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
I also want to tack this on and go back to the whole "people are more than a list of traits" thing. To be perfectly honest, I'm more interested in the way the character grew and developed throughout the canon than I am in seeing "X is brave. X is smart. X is good around children. X is charitable. X has a phobia of bees." That's all very nice and everything, but I'd rather know what caused your character to grow and change and how they react to certain situations, since ultimately that's what RP is, too. Tell me how your character thinks and functions so that I have some kind of a reference somewhere down the line if another player comes to me and says "I really don't think X's character development is very IC anymore."

ayrt again

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
And people can and do easily get more in depth than that with lists, I've seen it done before on multiple occasions. You don't need an essay for what you're looking for here.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
You just admitted that you can see how some people wouldn't enjoy writing an essay for their personality section, though. I can knock out a 1000 word personality section for fun in less than half an hour for a character I don't actually intend to app, because writing that kind of thing is something I enjoy – that doesn't mean I'm more invested in my character or in the idea of playing at that game than someone for whom that would be a forbidding task. Not formatting it like an academic essay doesn't mean someone doesn't give a shit. Seriously, I really want to know where you mod so I can avoid ever apping somewhere run by someone with such a pointlessly snobby attitude.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-01-03 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just speaking from personal experience, and ime I've never seen it done in a way that didn't read as being horribly lazy. I believe you when you say you can do it and do it well because I have no reason not to, and that's fine, but I've never seen it.

For example, what I said in the comment upthread about people not going into detail about a way a character develops or grows from the start of their canon to their canon point. You say that you include that in your list apps, and that's perfect. That's exactly what I'm looking for. However, as far as my own playerbase is concerned, the people who have given me list apps have never done that. It has literally just been a list of traits with a brief reference back to a canon event that means nothing to me if I'm canonblind. I want the hows and whys in addition to the whos and whats.

To be clear, I don't want it specifically to be an essay. It's just that I've never gotten what I've wanted out of an app that wasn't one. That doesn't mean I never will. I just haven't so far.