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Right –– and those are the very questions I think this petition needs to address if it wants to be taken seriously.

The system I used when I ran it and the current mods have inherited wasn't (and isn't) perfect, and those are all great questions. But it also isn't arbitrary -- it's just a system that was put in place years ago when the demands of the game were different, and major concerns from then were avoiding any numerical minimums, for mods to not police what is or isn't squatting and let players go to them with concerns on a case-by-case basis, and so on. Years ago, players had answers to those questions (and likely many players still do), while others now disagree, have changed their mind, or have come into the game with new ideas. All are equally valid, naturally, but hashing out any potential chances to the system is going to mean people need to answer the questions you've posed.

What people are taking issue with thus far seems to be that the petition is mostly just about dropping the requirement down to one post or allowing private posts again or other [imho] minor reversions and changes... but if you're making a proposal, there needs to be more meat.

If the AC requirement gets dropped to one post or private posts are allowed again, how should squatters be defined and handled?
If clearer thread counts are needed, how many comments should be required? Why that number?
Should quality be taken into account, considering that while subjective, it can be more indicative of a character's time spent/growth over the month than some character that just tags around misc "hellos" and one-liners?
Why do we bother doing AC, if we could just ask people if they still want to stay?
Why should two posts matter if someone could post and then never respond to any of the tags?
Etc., etc., etc.

So my bottom line is this: if you want change to be made so that the AC system better reflects the current playerbase, I highly recommend the petition includes suggestions as to WHY certain changes would work or meet the present-day needs of the game. A whole lot of signatures saying "yeah, we want change" is a good start, but when you simply ask for change and don't come up with a stronger proposal, you might not get the change you want.

Edited 2013-05-06 05:11 (UTC)

to be fair, i think a lot of people are waiting for the next "how's the game" post before going into real in-depth discussion. for now the petition just seems like a, "hey, we'd like to talk about this again! and we're not the only ones!" measure

Very true! I just want this thing to be prepared, because people always talk about what they'll say on HTG... and not everyone gets around to it. Best to lay down the terms while everyone's raring to go, and all :)

Well, no offense meant, but I know a number of people have said last game's HTG conversation regarding this got made too uncomfortable to continue by that idiot that was sniping at a player in the thread. That probably didn't help things with the discussion.

iirc this was first started to get people talking about AC and changes that could be made to the system and probably shouldn't have been labelled a petition. it's more like a "Hey this topic should be brought up again for discussion as it didn't happen last time" sort of thing, though this time there's suggestions there to get us started.

whether it's brought up solely at HTG or is brought up before that by the mods is up to them, granted i would like it to be before that so discussion of how it's working could be at HTG sooner than later, but that's me.

but you do bring up good points to think on (some i hadn't considered as it's something i just never do with AC systems by now like squatters as that will always happen), so thank you for that!

You realize that players did this on the last HMG and the mods just never replied, right?

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