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my biggest beef is that the current AC system just makes the cliquiness in this game worse. Never tag out? Log only with your closed group of friends? Congratulations! You don't have to submit AC proof! Tag other people's stuff? Tag open logs? Now you get to try and convince the mods that what you have is 'enough', given totally arbitrary standards.

I've been in this game nearly a year and still get almost no replies to open posts. I honestly only make them to pass AC these days and try to pursue CR through tagging out, because nobody else around is.

yeah, this is what drives me crazy about it. i like tagging around, but i don't have all the time in the world, and i can't predict who's going to drop threads or be really slow if i hit up new people. so it's way easier for me to either just tag with castmates and close CR, or make really pointless posts just to get AC. neither of these really adds much to the RP experience, but it's what we're left with if we don't have time to start enough threads to cover our asses against the mod's completely arbitrary decisions about acceptable thread count.

This is exactly why I ended up dropping the game. My posts barely got any replies except from my friends, so it got to the point where I was making completely inane posts just to pass AC because I sure as hell wasn't getting any CR that way.

oh good i'm not the only one that's seen it then. i know i've said it before to a couple people that it's the case and been told lolno that's not true there's no connection to a comment count AC and tagging around.

but i'm with you anon, i make posts and logs to pass AC and when i had to take three once i was scrambling to find shit to post about as i didn't want to touch thread count.

Exactly this. Paradisa's AC puts emphasis on making posts rather than tagging out, which only encourages an insular playerbase. Getting CR with anyone but my friends became an impossible dream there.

Speaking as someone who has considered apping, a posts only AC with no specifications about how to make AC by tagging out is a HUGE turnoff.

it's a bullshit ac system because you can pass just by making posts even if no one tags those posts. there were months where that happened to me, i would make an open post and get no tags but it still counted for ac.

current player and ita. it's frustrating watching people pass ac month after month with closed/filtered posts when rarely or never tagging out (doubly so if they throw in a halfassed "my character is sitting around doing nothing, come bother them" actionspam prompt once in a while to make it look public). but how do you deal with a problem like that? that's the nagging question...

i think the only way to really deal with it would be for the ac to *require* tagging out. as in, you can't pass ac until you've started x amount of threads. but that would require a major overhaul of the paradisa ac system.

tbh you can't fix all of it, people will always play with their friends first, end of story. what you can do is give them options, say a thread count so they don't fill up the comm with locked posts/logs for AC and can focus on threading. the less filler posts that go up the more likely folks are to tag around.

idk make it like 2-4 threads that need to total 20 comments (this is just for the sake of this idea), and then you know they'll have tagged around at least somewhat somehow for that (or 30 comments across 2-6 threads). that way you're not punishing taggers that focus on one important thread and have another going (which the present AC system does too) and you encourage people to tag around some.

just my 2 cents.

I feel like this kinda goes too far in the other direction. I don't really think it's a great idea to force anyone to play any specific way. And really, they'd just do all those comments with their friends, so it wouldn't make any difference. Some of the most insular players in the game have hundred comment threads nearly every time they post. They just boomerang with a select number of people. You can't force people to tag out. But we could at least stop punishing the people who *want* to.

it doesn't have to be either or! maybe as an option instead of posting. it's not forcing anyone to play any specific way, every other game i've seen with AC lets you use some combination of posts and a comment count, it helps the people that want to tag around because then you don't have to do posts and people that want to do posts can do them.

Wait a minute.

Isn't this the exact system we have now?

http://paradisamods.dreamwidth.org/9461.html#activity
From the activity check page, emphasis mine:

"Paradisa's activity requirements are TWO (2) journal or log posts every month or the equivalent in threads.

...

In leiu of making posts, you can provide several threads from other people's posts.

Please keep in mind that activity check is not a punishment!
We realize that people prefer to tag out into other posts rather than make their own. Being on the list for additional threads is just another way for you to present your activity.

What the heck is everyone complaining about? We might not have a specific number, but "several" says you at least need a handful of them. Does anyone actually know what system they're complaining about??????

Exactly this. Honestly, if you at least make one post, then get off your ass and make the effort to tag around, as long as you keep track of where you are, you're pretty much guaranteed to make AC. Since most games make players post their own AC these days anyway, I really don't see what everyone is so up in arms about.

But then again, it's been a while since there was any spectacularly huge wank in this game OOCly anyway. Should've figured people find a reason to start some even if Yuff (the one who posted the petition) says outright that this isn't a cry for it.

(And FTR - I didn't sign the petition. I just don't see it as necessary, because 'cmon guys. It's a game.)

Except the mods are being really shitty about being at all consistent with what counts as 'enough' threads. So people are running into the problem of tagging around, thinking they have enough for AC, and then getting told no, too bad, that's still not 'enough.' Which is bullshit.

THIS thank you anon.

i keep hearing cries of this without any solid proof. show me where people presented the same number of comments/threads and got different replies.

it's that lack of a number that for a lot of us is making it hard. i won't use it because i have no clue what number of threads/comments works for their system.

The thing is that one of these requires players to gather up a whole bunch of threads (without tags for commenting on posts), reply to the post, and hope that the mods decide it's enough.

The other requires you to make two bland one-line posts and never bother replying to comments and not have to do anything else.

I realize that most people don't truly do option 2 but there is pretty clearly 'the hard way' (threading) and the easy way (top posts). One of these encourages more interaction than the other among players.

And yet the petition is asking for requirements to be halved when two posts is already considered the easy way.

I just don't understand. What is this petition actually aiming for? Lowered AC? More defined AC? Making people tag out more? Preventing squatting????

As far as I can tell it's less a petition and more a collection of people who have problems with the current AC system. Some of them think it should be easier (I don't) and some who don't.

Well, unless counting logs the way every other game I've seen in DWRP counts as 'easier'.

Not that I blame you for making posts just to make AC but that is what I hated so much about the game and why I didn't feel like staying there anymore. It was hard to get CR because the majority of posts that went up weren't coming from people interested in making new CR at all, they just wanted that tick off their activity check so they could go back to playing with their friends. It's like playing roulette trying to find CR that sticks.

The sad thing is, I make posts because I *do* want new CR, and no one tags them...

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