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The kid just rages for a while

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I'm not intending to point any fingers and I don't want anyone thinking I'm trying to stir something up, so I'm doing this logged in. I'm honestly just curious.

What makes the rave so terrible but Kida's party I held earlier okay? Nobody's complained about that, or any party we've held in the past. Is it really just the use of generators? Because if it is, it'd be really easy to suggest that the mods hold some sort of event or even an accidental happening that shorts them all.

i can't speak for other anons but to me kida's post was far less obtrusive. it felt like a community good in the game. come and meet your neighbors and maybe get some food if you're hungry! i assumed kida had foraged for all the food or stocked up and that the karaoke was either without equipment or some horrible busted up machine. there was one thread. i didn't see you plurk about it what felt like a billion times because no one was biting. it was a very friendly party for lack of any other term.

the rave has the generator and that is part of the problem yes. but it feels like it was described on some massive scale. there's all these lights! a full dj system! speakers! it didn't sound kind of like the crappy party you'd have to have in the setting. it sounded like going clubbing.

tldr? i think it would have been ok had it been presented in a more low key way with more emphasis on the fact that there was really shit equipment. because a neighborhood block party is sweet and feasible and a way for people to get together and maybe some hungry people to get some food. a rave and using a generator just for that and offering nothing that appeals to a lot of people is selfish ic and attention grabbing ooc.

forgive me if i have details wrong, i dont pay much attention to kida

all parties/dances/whatever make me sideeye a little but what makes the rave especially bad is how much more involved it is than just a party. parties are pretty much 'theres a pile of food here and some not-dirty water here, maybe some lemonade if youre super lucky, watch the staircase its really water damaged and might break under you'

the rave has strobe lights, turntables (meaning intact wood, vinyls that actually play music and god knows what else that goes into making a turntable are you kidding me), three! computers! that the character totally found the pieces to and made, handwaved generators (iirc there have only been a few generators in ads since its creation), different colored intact glass for crazy lights, disco balls, and who the fuck knows what else. okay maybe your character found all that shit oh wait how long has alex been in the game and how long has he actually been looking for things to make this stuff? i could see him working for a long ass time on it but he hasnt. the first i heard of the rave was maybe last month or so.

then again this is alex we're talking about so it doesnt really surprise me at all

Thank you both for replying! I appreciate it.

So to be concise, it's not just wasting resources, it's mostly having an unbelievable amount of resources to waste. That makes a lot of sense, and yeah, a more in depth overview of what's un/available (and how much of it) would be nice. Thanks again.

to me it is also wasting resources with how much resources the character also has. all that glass could be put into good use along with the electronics computers. all that electricity being funneled for this stuff can be used to charge someone's home or the lights can provide a light for people.

instead we're using it for a party? let me break out the (unsure) emote.

I personally (not to say that you're wrong objectively) would argue that that breaks the ic/ooc barrier.

I think someone mentioned that they wanted more characters to call this character out, and that's fine! Contact the player and set something up. I at least would love to play out a bunch of kids wasting resources being called on it. I know Kida regularly wastes alcohol and has occasionally encouraged Duo to steal some for their irresponsible nights out.

Even saying that you feel a character should have used their resources differently is a-okay.

The thing is, if you throw a bunch of irresponsible characters together, icly they're going to be irresponsible with what you give them. When you start oocly trying to say that irresponsible characters should not act irresponsible, then I'm the one who's going to break out my emote collection.

I don't know everything about the character in question! Feel free to correct me if I'm misunderstanding something. I will back off gracefully. I also agree that having so many resources at one character's disposal (if the character is utilizing all of the things listed) is questionable. But if the problem is really how the resources are being used, I think that is something that should be handled icly, as it was an ic decision to use the resources that way.

Edited 2013-04-07 06:41 (UTC)

um. i understand you want to defend your friend and everything and that's nice. but did you see the fit she threw at the vriska player? did you see her accusing that player of posting about her anonymously and causing drama? when it was all ic because anyone who isn't stupid knows vriska is a complete troll?

it's one thing to say it should be ic. i agree with you. but alex's player did not want any negative fall out from this thing. she didn't want anyone pointing out how fucking stupid the entire thing was. when someone did? she exploded at them and behaved like a spoiled child.

if she had welcomed negative cr from this and planned for some people to disagree with the resource wasting ic, i would think the rave was a wonderful plot. i would admire her for setting up a chance for negative cr. it's a chance to really make other characters think.

but she didn't. she wanted everyone to drink and act ridiculous and wanted all the ass pats because zomg rave! then she took it ooc when someone called her on it ic. like a previous anon said, no one wants to deal with that bullshit. most people who disagree are ignoring the thread and her because we don't want her starting her own pity party against our characters.

Actually, I didn't see any of this. I saw the Vriska player's plurk about not meaning to cause any problems, and I completely believe them. Nothing before that or after. I miss out on a lot of ooc problems, especially if it's not right in my front yard (i.e. displayed openly on rpanons or wankgate).

If there's much more to it than that, then I'm missing a lot of info that no one's mentioned to me as being the problem. If player attitude is a huge factor, that's definitely something that should be addressed and mentioned to a mod, if it hasn't been already.

I can understand not wanting negative consequences for something that was intended to be fun, but if the player is throwing fits over it and accusing people with no proof, then that's the real ooc problem.

I just said this in another comment, but I wanted to make sure you saw this too because you've been involved in this discussion for a while: there were no fits or accusations involved, and the PM didn't even come from Alex's player. I'm sorry to everyone involved/tangentially involved if it came off as more dramatic than it was; I know I said we "worked it out", but I should have emphasized more that they were perfectly respectful throughout the whole thing and were concerned, not accusatory. As far as I'm concerned, there's definitely no OOC problem surrounding that part of the issue.

Thank you. This was pretty awesome of you.

tbh alex's player has a history of this special snowflake behavior. i'm just surprised it took her this long to be called out on it.

deets or this is full of as much horseshit as the above anon is.

it's old. she played the same oc as well as a special vampire chick at trans 9. she didn't hide her crazy as well back then and basically tried inserting her vampire chick forcefully into all the crew stuff. started aggressively going after certain characters to play out ships, etc, and didn't know the boundaries. she also hated that anyone might her vampire at all and refused to allow it to happen. threw a fit when she didn't get command of the ship.

she was probably worse back then but she's always been too aggressive and all over the special snowflake spectrum.

> played on trans_9

that explains a lot. im not kidding.

yeah, no. i know. there's a reason i flounced. i think even her shitty oc got banned, though? one day it just disappeared without a drop that i knew of.

Woah, woah, woah. I know I said on plurk that I wasn't going to comment here logged in, but I want to clear this up here: I never said the PM came from the player in question, and it was far from an explosion or a fit. I don't really feel comfortable copying and pasting the text of the PM here without the consent of the sender, but it was perfectly polite and reasonable, and when I told them that I honestly hadn't meant any OOC/IC line-breakage they said okay and apologized (and I don't even think an apology was necessary; like I said, it was a concern, not an accusation).

so you know for a fact it was the oc-mun who sent it and that she threw an epic fit and feels all these things

when all the homestuck player said in their plurk was someone had contacted them concerned about it and they'd gotten it sorted out

and the oc player didn't post anything about it until earlier today saying they were fine with negative cr and reactions to it

that's not what people mean when they say to reach for the stars anon

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