rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2013-03-14 07:30 pm

But little did they know

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http://court-records-net.tumblr.com/post/45468337945/

(Anonymous) 2013-03-16 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
C-R managed to get a hold of the original article and it turns out Oren gave a mistranslation:

"成歩堂なんでも事務所”の弁護士として、多数の難事件を解決してきた青年。だが、かつての新米らしい面影はなく、凛々しさと貫禄を漂わせている。右目と腕に巻かれた包帯、そして肩に羽織った見覚えのないボロボロのジャケットは、果たして何を意味するのだろうか。

A rough translation:

A youth who solved many difficult cases as an attorney of the Wright Anything Offices. However, he now gives off a dignified and bold air rather than that of a rookie attorney. His right eye and arms are wrapped up in bandages, and he wears a tattered, never-before-seen jacket - what could it mean?
"

Re: http://court-records-net.tumblr.com/post/45468337945/

(Anonymous) 2013-03-16 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I still kind of hope he's not this game's prosecutor. I feel like it would be a cheap way to give him character development after not focusing on him at ALL in the last game. Not that making Phoenix a jaded hobo was any less cheap, but...

It just kind of frustrates me. Phoenix's story was over and because they didn't try hard enough to make Apollo's story about Apollo, they just decide "well instead of trying to improve upon Apollo who has shitloads of loose threads in his story IT'S PHOENIXTIME AGAIN YAY" but at the same time I'm not unhappy to see Phoenix in a defense role.

+1

(Anonymous) 2013-03-16 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that the reason people love Phoenix to begin with is because Takumi put effort into fleshing out Phoenix. Apollo got no such thing in his own game. If they wanted to make Apollo a prosecutor so badly, they should, oh I don't know, make him the main character of a game that leads up to him becoming a prosecutor.

Question out curiosity, does anyone knows how fandom is reacting to Apollo not being the main character and also him reappearing with a new look? I know that Tumblr fandom is relieved to have him back, but I'm not sure about the rest of the fandom.

+1

(Anonymous) 2013-03-17 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It never felt like I was playing Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney in the 4th game. It was more like "Phoenix Wright guest starring Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney" because halfway in the game just gave up on Apollo and started catering to Phoenix again (hello case 4)

-1

(Anonymous) 2013-03-19 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I never felt that way.

Apollo was the main character from beginning to end. Phoenix plays an important role, but you could argue that Edgeworth plays just as an important role in the first game. After all, Case 4 in the original game is all about him and hardly at all about Phoenix.

Apollo really worked for me because he was a sly commentary on all the tropes and cliches of the series. Shouting in court, his spiky hair (which he has to meticulously gel instead of having "natural" spiky hair like Phoenix), his complaints about the parade of misfits that he has to interview/defend ("Why can't I just have a normal case for once?") and the bizarre hoops he has to jump through (the most blatant being when he has to figure out a magic trick because none of the magicians will tell him) and so forth.

And every case is connected to Apollo or his backstory in a way that some cases in the Phoenix Trilogy never were. Case 3 in AA, for example, which is a fun little story but completely irrelevant to the overarching plot. In comparison, Case 3 in Apollo Justice introduces Lamiroir (and if you've played the game, you know how important she is not just to the story but to Apollo directly.)

Yeah, Phoenix plays a huge role in the plot of AJAA. But it's Apollo's story from beginning to end. It's Apollo's trial (no pun intended) to overcome.