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ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)also, since you obviously missed the point, i'll show you the way back on course: it's not a change to be all "come on guys, everybody just play nice-nice" like this is some kindergarten class
when there's conflict, like there obviously is between people in this fandom, claiming that everyone should just be nice is the equivalent of playing ostrich and trying to sweep all the dirt under the rug so that nothing changes at all
trying to get people to act nice when they've actually got critical things to say is just asking people to be two-faced, and considering that the wankgate threads are the most conversation this fandom has seen in months, asking people to go back to just being "nice" is like asking everyone to stop talking so that the fandom can stagnate some more...and then pretending that that's good for everyone
so as funny as it is that your ass is so chapped over this, refusing to play your little ostrich game is just a matter of thinking in ways more advanced than a six year old's
Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)you have truly mastered your ostrichdom
enjoy all that sand in your ears. the rest of us will be up here participating in reality
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 07:47 am (UTC)(link)Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 08:23 am (UTC)(link)using rational arguments is so unfair isn't it? they just don't understand! anon is horrible and bitter and never says anything of value! off course anon has sand in the vag! good for you for ignoring them! you're so much better than they are! you're totally right to disregard everything they say!
ilu bb! (cozy)(cozy)(cozy)
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-07 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)Ok? Have fun together and get along just fine idgaf but you aren't ALL the people in this fandom and not everyone gets along. That's not wank, that's just life, brosis.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)da
(Anonymous) 2013-01-09 03:10 am (UTC)(link)This is not to say that there are no problems in the fandom. I've seen a few myself. I'm just genuinely confused at how many people talk about "the clique(s)" when I have not yet found a specific "clique" resembling what people talk about. So where is this clique everyone uses as the example of all the terrible things that exist in the DGM fandom? Is it on the DR because I don't even touch the place so I can admit if it is there I wouldn't have seen it. Is it in a specific game? From what I know most games don't even have enough characters to be a formidable cast, let alone a clique.
I want to be able to talk about this fandom's problems and work them out so things are better as a whole. But when people keep bringing up problems and blaming people I never come across or making mass generalizations I know aren't true (negative generalizations about an entire fandom are really only asking for people to get insulted), it's hard to see things as being a "fandom issue" and not "issues with specific people in the fandom."
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-11 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)da
(Anonymous) 2013-01-11 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)What about that won't make people who have fun feel guilty? It implies anyone enjoying themselves is part of the problem. Especially with how general and vague all of the claims were until someone explained things more below. We spend our time wondering if we're part of the clique or if our cast is doing something wrong and we never knew it. Sure some people are trying to ignore whatever problems might be existing in this fandom. But I'm betting a lot of us just haven't had the negative experiences other people seem to be having. Still, we've made to feel like it's our fault when so far all I've heard is about specific group of people and not everyone (even though originally people were basically saying all of us hated everyone else). So yeah, it feels like we're being made to feel bad for having fun when other people aren't.
I'm not saying the original anon was right for being so rude just because someone wanted to do something different or that all the people who jumped in to be jerks about pointing out that anon was wrong were in the right. Far from it. We shouldn't ignore whatever bad exists because eventually it will fester and keep spreading the infection (like it is now). But many of the anons here were painting everyone in the fandom with the same negative brush, too, and that's just as rude to the people who weren't even involved until this started here. And the negative little digs have been going on for months now. Neither solves whatever problems our fandom has, really, because we're just alienating each other when we should be working together.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-11 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)This isn't a fandom-wide problem. People who like this fandom are attacked or made to feel guilty repeatedly because they aren't having bad experiences with this group or don't deal with this group enough to know them at all. I myself have probably never played with them before unless it was on a meme and I didn't know it. I can't say I know everyone in the fandom (but I've met a good share of people from it over the last four years), so it's more than possible.
If this is a problem then we need to have a way to deal with it and telling the fandom as a whole that its terrible and no one is allowed to have fun ever because this clique exists and behaves poorly is just as unhelpful as the people who act like everyone in the fandom is perfect and can do no wrong. It's like saying no one is allowed to like dogs because you were bit by one once.
Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 07:18 am (UTC)(link)"me and my friends get along just fine, and i think my friends constitute the fandom, so anyone who doesn't get along just fine with us doesn't count, isn't part of the fandom, and is just a trouble maker who we should write off as being butthurt"
pretty sure the only thing "hypocritical" that these "few loud anons" are doing is not being part of the cozy-box circle of friends that you want to designate as the fandom
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 10:37 am (UTC)(link)Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)some people just don't like complain
maybe they're just happier than you
Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)But those of us who can actually see problems and are willing to speak about them shouldn't shut up for your sake.
Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)keep on being mad
there won't be any change anyway to the fandom
i'm just saving my anger for things worth getting mad about
here's some pills for your high blood pressure
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)you go ahead not liking to complain, sweetie pie
while you're at it, you go ahead not troubling yourself with thinking or with conflict or with any of that other nasty not-nice stuff. that kind of stuff's for men and grown-ups anyway, not for good little girls like you
you're far too demure and meek and unassuming to do anything so unladylike as complain
and obviously you must be happier than those bad, impudent, cheeky girls who say critical things! good girls don't like to complain or to speak up or make their voices heard, and of course they're all happier that way! and that's what everyone's always told you you are, isn't it sugar cakes?
Re: ITT: wanky whorebags who think they're so tough and skrong
(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)you reek of the immaturity of a high school student
nice try at shaming females too (fyi i am a guy)
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