rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2012-02-07 07:22 pm

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ayrt

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Actually I really hate Vincent (no offense to Vincent fans!), I only bought DoC because I was excited for what I thought would be the first FPS FF game. I digress though. I couldn't care less about Vincent's intervention, it's just that the scene presented Lucrecia as NOT thinking of the longterm effects that the experimentation would have on this living, breathing human being that she planned on bringing into the world.

I mean, I'm all for women's rights. I think a woman has the right to do what she has with her body. But the thing is, if you're planning on giving life to a human being, why would you do anything you think might detriment that human being's life in the long run? And I know, I know, I guess that's where the "science can be evil" theme comes into the series. But it just shocked the shit out of me that Lucrecia was so ignorant as to think that the experiments performed on her baby "only concern her."

I wouldn't care if she was supposed to be as villainous as Hojo is, but from what the series tries to convey about her, she clearly wasn't intended as a villain. Just downright ignorant. And I guess I didn't like seeing that aspect of her.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
I think the thing that is tripping me up is, well, you're using knowledge they didn't have at the time. We know Jenova is an alien from outer space who works like a parasite. They thought she was an Ancient at the time! As far as they knew, Jenova cells wouldn't cause a mutation or be detrimental in any way, shape or form. The child would either be special--you'd have a false Cetra--or... A normal human being. And considering the technology of FF7, it's safe to say with that line of thought, and that mistaken knowledge, there was no real risk. You can't be ignorant in the field of biotechnolgy, which is exactly her field. She was smart. She knew what she was doing. The thing is, she was operating under the thought that she'd A. still be able to see and interact with her son (Hojo is the kind to lie, after all, to get his way) and B. that Jenova was an Ancient who were similar to humans, just in-tune with the Planet on a genetic level.

da

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Anon.

If this was real life

If you saw in the news that a woman was allowing herself and her unborn fetus to be injected with cells from a recently-discovered specimen believed to be from an extinct species in humanity's ancestry in order to create some kind of superhuman

(Which means they were expecting it to make a significant change in biology, or they wouldn't get the hoped-for results! They were expecting it to be beneficial rather than detrimental, but were still messing with fundamental shit at the crucial development time for the child and a more delicate time for the woman's health. There was real risk. They should know that.)

Would you not think it sounded a little crazy? Would you not question the sanity of her friends and family if not one stopped her to ask "are you sure about doing this?"

Someone who knows the field of biotechnology should know this could easily carry risks. Even without specializing in biotechnology, disregarding foresight, it's pretty easy to tell this is a situation where concern is valid. And yes, even an expert should be questioned because even experts make mistakes, or make decisions under pressure.

DA

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
> Applying real life to a game where people can fly and become virtual vampires

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
> Laughing at applying real life concerns to a game with real life concerns as its themes where the guy with real life concerns is proven right

> Or acting like any part of Hojo or Lucrecia's actions show they were actually striving to be safe in experimentation

OK

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2012-02-13 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
> Applying knowledge of humans to characters who are (or were originally) humans

Unless you're saying that the people in FF7 are not actually humans and shouldn't be expected to think like them?