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Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

Overwatch classes are still so fucking broken almost a year later

I don't know how anyone plays this game in earnest. I lost interest awhile ago because it's repetitive and unfun once you realize how little thought Blizzard put into balancing this game. Sometimes I screw around with friends but it's rare these days. They need to overhaul the entire thing but they won't because Overwatch is a backburner game for them.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

>one of the best selling games of the decade
>multiple goty awards
>massive playerbase considering the genre
>official promotion of the game is an almost constant deluge of marketing


anon, you're free not to like it, but it's not a backburner game for Blizzard. don't lie to yourself to make yourself feel better about not liking it.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

This isn't an unpopular opinion so the "don't lie to yourself to make it seem better" can be turned right back to you.

And lmao thinking video game awards mean anything.

[(Anonymous)]

don't even bother arguing with blizzard stans. they can't ever take criticism of their precious games

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

this isn't a matter of opinion. the game topped over 10 million players over summer of last year. that's not a number i pulled out of my ass, i googled it just now. the franchise is printing money for blizzard.

i don't even like the game and I know it's not a backburner game. maybe just accept the fact it sucks and it's going to stay that way.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

Except buyers don't equal continued players and that number is getting lower, which is part of the reason it takes so long to even find a game.

Hype does not equal delivery, sadly. Overwatch doesn't have staying power ATM.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

SA but to make that more relevant to the backburner thing: if people aren't buying loot boxes then ~10 million players isn't going to make that much difference. $40 is overpriced for this game as it is. It's clear to me they don't understand how to balance the game and aren't taking the time and money TO fix it which might make it have more replay value. It's backburner for a company like Blizzard where their main income still comes from Starcraft, HOtS, and, somehow, WoW.

Overwatch is absolutely not Blizzard's priority compared to their main babies. Advertising does nothing when the game doesn't deliver, again. It's not continued income. Overwatch tournaments draw nowhere near the same crowd as SC because the game is considered too casual and broken rn. Fixing glaring issues might solve that, but again. Backburner.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

i think we're having too different definitions of what's considered "backburner" here. the game is absolutely making money, hand over first, regardless of tournament turn outs or lack of game balance.

i mean, anon, the data is all there: https://www.vg247.com/2016/12/22/overwatch-brought-in-more-money-than-any-other-paid-pc-game-in-2016/

hell, it's even crushing in the korean market, overtaking league in many ways. it doesn't matter if Blizz isn't stopping to fix the game balance, it's printing money for them, more than any of their other properties currently save for maybe Hearthstone (which does absolutely gangbusters because, hey, mobile gaming).

so i have no idea what you mean when you call it a "backburner" game. it's the company's biggest current money maker (except, once again, maybe Hearthstone and I don't have the numbers on that to confirm or deny, but last I heard it was buried in cash). maybe their priorities with the franchise aren't where you think they should be, but by no means does blizz not care about it.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

They're going to have to start caring more if it wants staying power. Again, the game is brand new. It's a hype machine. They put a ton of money into advertising the shit out of it in 2016.

Where is the money going to come from after the initial purchases of $40-$60?

Advertising the game does not equal making it have staying power by fixing massive issues with balancing and maps in the game. That is why it's "backburner" for them. Because their other games already have playerbases that have stuck by them for this long and continue to give them money and so they are given higher priority re: fixing issues.

I do not know how else to explain this to you. You seem to think that just because Blizzard advertised it so much and does all these free weekend things that it means they're paying attention to the numerous concerns they get about the game and the fact the playerbase is already dropping off. The game's not even a year old so I hope that they start listening to the concerns of people who actually play the game, otherwise they're going to lose them. There's only so many times people can initially purchase something.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatch-hits-25-million-players-up-from-20-milli/1100-6447312/ the playerbase hasn't dropped off at all.

my information is based on actual statistical data. yours is all based on feelings about how games should be and how developers should approach them. idk if we're gonna get a common ground here, so it's probably best to just stop.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

echoing what anons below say + tumblr/sfm appeal =/= people actually playing it and playing it a lot or with people outside of their scheduled friend groups. with lps on the rise and people only caring about physical appearances (esp the tumblr side) it doesn't necessarily mean that people are playing it. also citing any kind of awards is bullshit because as bad as hollywood and movie and music awards are, vg awards are even more of a bullshit fake circlejerk. vg awards and journalism are a joke. get your ass learned.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

overwatch, crappy game or not, whether you like it or not, made $585.6 million in 2016, not counting continued sales into the proceeding quarter that's already passed. this is not a matter of opinion. this is actual fact. it's data. it isn't impacted by your feels.

but okay. no one's playing it.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

This is not the argument at hand. Money made by initial purchase does not equal continued playerbase. I don't know how else to say this. I've already said it but you keep bringing up last year's sales of the game like that has any bearing on whether Blizzard is going to fix it.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

because the term "backburner" implies blizzard doesn't care.

they care. it's just not the way you think they should. we're done.

flatviewer

[(Anonymous)]

if you have to tell the other person you won the argument you haven't won it at all, anon

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

i don't care who "won", i was disengaging because i was tired of arguing with someone who wanted to fight facts with feels. that's what i meant by done.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

What facts? Of initial purchases? You are literally ignoring everything I'm saying because "b-but a million purchases of the game!!"

I was trying to be nice but jfc you sound like an idiot who doesn't even play the game. All you care about is that purchase like it means anything. INITIAL PURCHASE IS NOT CONTINUED PLAYERS.

God damn do you lack reading comprehension.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

goty awards means nothing anon.

any gaming award is such a joke, that they make winning a grammy look like you won the nobel peace prize

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

they mean games are well received and successful. it's not a statement of quality, it's a statement of whether the game had worthwhile success, which is the only measure of quality that actually matters to developers.

you'll notice no one in this thread is trying to say overwatch is a good game or that blizz doesn't need to fix or patch anything about it. it's just some anon tried to say it was a "backburner" game and not a priority for blizzard, and attempting in further comments to downplay how popular the game is or how much money it's making, when all of that is just objectively not true. goty awards are just another factor in that. games that rack up those, meaningless or not, aren't failures or low priority games.

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

game awards mean nothing

Re: OVERWATCH

[(Anonymous)]

okei

SA

[(Anonymous)]

And to put it in perspective, Her Story won a couple of awards too for some reason and ushered in the age of movie and walker simulations. It's a solid thing (game, movie, whatever you want to call it) but not really goty award worthy.

Hell undertale won a goty against Witcher 3, Metal Gear V, Fallout 4, Bloodborne and Splatoon. Which brings us back to the circle jerk since Witcher 3 kept winning awards against those other three.

There's no real set process for goty expect that some rando likes it and has a mag or site.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

... did you completely miss the part of the comment where anon said it was a measure of commercial success, not quality?

da, +1

[(Anonymous)]

if GOTY awards from certain big name publications were completely meaningless, game devs wouldn't put them on re-issue boxes/trailers/etc. that shit can sell games. it's a sign of a game being successful. not the *only* one, but it means something.

Re: da, +1

[(Anonymous)]

it means as much as a your mom hanging your drawing on the fridge for aweek.